09-09-2006, 08:40 AM
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He'll probably stop. He would never risk driving the same car against Raikkonen.
Before he signed his contract with Ferrari, he wanted a clausule in it that they would never sign Villeneuve when he was driving there! No one can deny his driving skills, but sometimes the FIA should have taken his licence away, for his aggressive driving. Remember Indy last year; Only six cars on track, and after his second pit-stop he almost drives Rubinho of the track. If Rubens shouldn't have wisely backed off, Monteiro would have won the race. (and Barrichello would have lost his contract with Ferrari !).
Spa/Francorchamps with the "great passing maneuver" of Hakkinen over Schumacher. What else could Hakkinen have done? Hit Zonta, who was driving in the middle of the road? That was probably Michael's idea...
Why do experts say that Ralf hasn't got the guts to pass his brother? Maybe because he knows what he's capable of trying.
If Schumacher would have driven any other car than a Ferrari, nobody would have liked him. Now he has a lot of tifosi behind him.
If Raikkonen starts winning with Ferrari next year, all of Italy will drool over him, and the Sh*tmacher will be soon forgotten.
Senna fan forever,
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09-11-2006, 12:04 AM
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Senna, now that's a good example of a driver whose ethics were never in question.
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09-11-2006, 12:06 AM
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Really?? Suzuka with Prost??
Great to watch sure, but not really "ethical"...
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09-11-2006, 12:19 AM
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Really?? Suzuka with Prost??
Great to watch sure, but not really "ethical"...
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That was a revenge for what happened the year before. And at least he admitted doing it deliberatly...
Senna will always be remembered as the greatest, together with Fangio.
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09-11-2006, 12:20 AM
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Just being sarcastic, that's all.
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09-11-2006, 05:03 AM
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Interesting to see a recap of some of his errors in judgement by people who speculate they are accurate in their assesments of Shumi.
I take the overall driver and I think we just watched history.
When we realize how long his records will stay unchalleged just maybe some of you will realize what this man has done.
Many of you dwell on past incidents and assume that they all were done on purpose. Many also believe that every other driver are saints and have never done anything wrong.
Many of you go through your lives beliving your without sin and everyone else is bad.
I think if you take Shumi and make him a saint taken all those incidents away that you feel were wrong. Shumi wouldn't be the racer that he is and thats life.
As far as comparisons to Fangio and Senna a barely remember Senna and know really nothing of Fangio. Why the need to compare? Is tiger woods the greatest golfer? Is Gretzky the greatest hockey player? Different times bring different training, approaches and technology. For my time I've enjoyed Shumi and sad to see him go. At the age of 37 he is a hell of a driver and no one can argue with that. The fact he won so many consective races caused rule changes to hinder Ferrari/Shumi speaks louder to me than any negative things said on BB.
What a class act going out in style... 
Where can I find info or a very good web site on Fangio.....
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09-11-2006, 06:49 AM
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So BReneau has been proved right! Schumi shall retire. Good call, Beneau. I was hoping Schumi would hold out for 1 more year, but it's not to be.
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09-11-2006, 07:56 AM
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Glad I went to Indy this year, almost gave the tickets away. People have stated that the only reason that F1 came back to USA was because of Ferrari sales/pressure. I guess BMW could have cared less about F1 in the USA, and if Schummi hadn't had the fame and following here in the USA, it may never have come back. Can we imagine one person having that much influence on any other single motorsport? You may not like him, but he has impacted our lives in some way, like it or lump it. I say congrats to the man, job well done and hope you enjoy your retirement! We may very well have had the opportunity to witness the greatest driver in F1 history, first hand.
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09-11-2006, 09:23 AM
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...and if Schummi hadn't had the fame and following here in the USA, it may never have come back.
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09-11-2006, 02:15 PM
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He certainly was not soley responsible, he is however the most widely known F1 driver here in the US (until Juan went NASCAR). I am an avid viewer of F1 (Love that Tivo!) racing and news shows that air in US, and it was clear that Ferrari was huge in getting F1 back to the states. BMW was not pushing for it's return, Ferrari was the key factor in is return to the US. MS is Ferrari F1 and without him, Ferrari F1 would not have had the pull for our US market. Come on guys, obviously he was not responsible, only one of the major keys to F1's return. How long F1 stays is the real question, now that Ferrari has lost it's golden child. Did you all travel to Indy for the show?
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09-11-2006, 02:17 PM
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Where can I find info or a very good web site on Fangio.....
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http://www.jmfangio.org/
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09-11-2006, 03:05 PM
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I'm not the only one...
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09-12-2006, 02:27 PM
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MS seemed to me a consummate professional, and master PR representative of the Ferrari brand. I for one will miss him.
It would be interesting to see MS go to Mercedes with Kimi at Ferrari...
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09-12-2006, 06:01 PM
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It's always funny, and disappointing, how many people dismiss bad behavior as long as the guy is winning, as if winning will excuse bullying and foul play. Most respected race analysts agree that MS will be remembered as much for his unethical behavior as his driving skill. A few indiscretions, well...., maybe, but an entire career of them, c'mon now. The guy, as talented as he's been, just didn't need to be such a jerk. And he always had such a sneer on his face, just made you wonder.
It's like Barry Bonds, there will always be at least an asterisk next to his name, for his unethical drug use.
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09-12-2006, 07:30 PM
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Most respected race analysts agree that MS will be remembered as much for his unethical behavior as his driving skill.
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I've said this before on some BB: When he is a grandfather and only has memories of his grand racing days, the victories where he cheated or used his team mate to win (ie. cheated), etc. will not be as sweet. When his grand kids ask him about events they have read ... hmmm, what will he answer?
I personally think it matters how you win.
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