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Old 10-04-2005, 01:27 PM
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Is this autocrossing?

Not an Alfa but H3ll Yes!!

Is this what you do at an autocross event in the US?

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Old 10-04-2005, 02:20 PM
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Hej Mats, yes that would be like an autocross event in the US. It's fun and
a good way to learn car control, however it entails hours of standing around for
just a few minutes of track time, you just can't beat racing on a real track for
getting seat time (and spending $$).
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Old 10-04-2005, 02:42 PM
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Matts,

Neat video. Yes, the event looks a lot like what we call autocrossing or, "Solo Events" as described by the Sports Car Club Of America (SCCA). As you no doubt suspect, a course can vary considerably depending on how much pavement ia available. the event in your video appears to be at an airport, and the timed run seems very long. U.S. autocrosses generally run from 30 to 100 seconds.

I recently competed in the SCCA National Solo Championships where over 1100 entrants participated. Kjell is correct in his assesment of seat time vs. racing, but the cost is less as well as the consequences of a mistake.

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Hej Mats, yes that would be like an autocross event in the US. It's fun and
a good way to learn car control, however it entails hours of standing around for
just a few minutes of track time, you just can't beat racing on a real track for
getting seat time (and spending $$).
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I've been driving around some cones too but it was just too much standing around and too slow driving.
Racing is the way for me, such a big difference when driving around a track solo and if you have someone to chase, being chased or both!

I'd love an engine and gearbox like the one in the video, set up for racing.
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a friend used to race at off-road rallyes in my country with great success. although the 2 door model is more aesthetically pleasing, the 4 door version is more suited for their purpose...they were more balanced.
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I've been driving around some cones too but it was just too much standing around and too slow driving.
Racing is the way for me, such a big difference when driving around a track solo and if you have someone to chase, being chased or both!

I'd love an engine and gearbox like the one in the video, set up for racing.
Autocrossing IMO is also a lot less stress - on the car and myself worrying about crashing. If I spin at an autox, I might take out a couple cones and need to polish my bumper. If I do the same at the track, I might lose the car to a tire wall.

As for the standing around... yes, there is a lot of standing around but that can also depend on what club you are running with. Some clubs will have you out there all day. Others will run split heats where you work 1/2 of your heat and drive the other half so you don't have to stay the entire day. If I'm going to the track, I'm getting up much earlier and getting home even later than if I showed up to help setup and stayed through tear down at any local autocross (but I would get a lot more seat time).

The truth is they are two completely different sports and comparing them really isn't fair. You might have one or two local tracks within a few hours of your house that you can regularly go to but autocrosses are a lot more common (and closer) and the course design changes every week. I like the fact I have to learn a new course for every event.

It really depends on what you like. As for me... I'll be at the track this weekend and two weekends later I'll be at an autocross. It's going to be a busy month.

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