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Darn!
Perhaps it is time to get Eddie Irvine off of his chaise lounge somewhere in the Seychelles?
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I wonder if 'ol Nigel Mansell can still fit into his 'racing togs'???
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08-11-2009, 11:22 AM
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Dissapointned to hear this about Michael pulling out. It would have really made things interesting... somthing F1 in in dire need of.
THey should put Jaques Villinueve in it!
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In case you all missed this, Renault's appeal was successful, and they will race in Valencia. Here's the full decision From the FIA-ICA:
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/the-fia/cou...ecision-en.pdf
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08-23-2009, 07:07 AM
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Great to see Rubens win one! But aside from the start(the best part of this race) I think the only "passing" was done in the pits! As good as Valencia is for a 'street-circuit' it was a pretty mediocre race...hopefully Spa will bring back some racing!
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08-23-2009, 08:06 AM
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Dissapointned to hear this about Michael pulling out. It would have really made things interesting... somthing F1 in in dire need of.
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And, substituting Luca Badoer for Shumi was really a questionable decision. I suppose Ferrari didn't have a lot of time to react once Schumacher's neck problems were identified, and I suppose Badoer was already under contract, and familiar with the '09 car. Still, .....
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08-23-2009, 08:43 AM
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WTG RUBENSfirst win since that red car!
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08-23-2009, 09:37 AM
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Yes, great to see Rubens Win.With the way Button has been driving of late, a Championship for Rubens is not out of the question.
On a lighter note , though I am not the biggest Hamilton fan and really don't like seeing him win that often,but I do like seeing that girlfreind of his.Man is she gorgeous.
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08-23-2009, 10:20 AM
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And, substituting Luca Badoer for Shumi was really a questionable decision. I suppose Ferrari didn't have a lot of time to react once Schumacher's neck problems were identified, and I suppose Badoer was already under contract, and familiar with the '09 car. Still, .....
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Questionable decision? They had two weeks' notice, and there's no testing allowed. And they didn't "substitute Badoer for Schumacher"; they substituted Badoer for nobody--which is who they had left when Schumacher said he couldn't handle it. It's an unfortunate situation, to say the least, but there was no alternative other than fielding only a single car.
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08-23-2009, 02:39 PM
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Questionable decision? They had two weeks' notice, and there's no testing allowed. And they didn't "substitute Badoer for Schumacher"; they substituted Badoer for nobody--which is who they had left when Schumacher said he couldn't handle it. It's an unfortunate situation, to say the least, but there was no alternative other than fielding only a single car.
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I beg to differ:
Ferrari's other test driver Marc Gene(i don't know how to put the ` over the last e), he just WON Le Mans in a Peugeot. He should have been the logical 'alternative'! It was sad seeing Badoer plodding along, he certainly was not-up-to-the-task...Ferrari would have been better off "...fielding one car...". Rumor was that Ferrari gave Badoer the 'ride' to reward him for his years of 'loyalty' to the team(?).
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Fair point; Gené would have been an alternative, and probably a better one at that. Endurance racing success hasn't typically translated well to F1, but Gené does know the car, and couldn't have done any worse than Badoer (Genés F1 record is a little bit better, though neither is very good). Of course, given that it's Ferrari, there may have been some contractual issue we don't know about.
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Okay, now here's the 'real' question: does Rubens have a chance to win the Title??? Now that he's 16 or 17(?) points behind Button, Rubens seems to be a legitimate contender. It doesn't look like the Red Bull boys are going to have much left for the remainder of the season, so the 2 that are going to have a run at Button are Rubens & Hamilton. Hamilton has a long career ahead of him, Rubens---not so much. I'm pulling for Barrichello!
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Okay, now here's the 'real' question: does Rubens have a chance to win the Title??? Now that he's 16 or 17(?) points behind Button, Rubens seems to be a legitimate contender.
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According to the BBC ( BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | Standings ) Rubens is 26 points behind Button (44 pts vs 70). I certainly agree that it would be terrific to see Barrichello take the championship - numerically, he and the Red Bull boys are the only ones close to Button.
The problem that Barrichello will have in overtaking Button is that a) both are on the same team, and b) it is a British team. Is Brawn really going to allow a Brazilian to snatch the championship from a Brit? I kind of doubt it.
1,6 HF - I'm guessing you'll have an opinion here.
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The problem that Barrichello will have in overtaking Button is that a) both are on the same team, and b) it is a British team. Is Brawn really going to allow a Brazilian to snatch the championship from a Brit? I kind of doubt it.
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First, hooray for Rubens. Hope he can continue to be as fast and consistent as he was today.
AFAIK, Rubens is a favorite of Ross' from way back and since the British traffic courts want to take his license away for speeding, he may not really care, as long as they win the Manufacturer's championship also.
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08-23-2009, 09:22 PM
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According to the BBC ( BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | Standings ) Rubens is 26 points behind Button (44 pts vs 70). I certainly agree that it would be terrific to see Barrichello take the championship - numerically, he and the Red Bull boys are the only ones close to Button.
The problem that Barrichello will have in overtaking Button is that a) both are on the same team, and b) it is a British team. Is Brawn really going to allow a Brazilian to snatch the championship from a Brit? I kind of doubt it.
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We're both wrong---Button=72pts. Barrichello=54pts. So it works out to an 18 point difference! These numbers are from the F1 Offical Web Site. I think your point totals were 'prior' to the Euro GP. Webber is in 3rd. place w/51.5pts.
Your second statement is something to think about. But I don't think Ross Brawn would get into the 'mix' in that way. Brawn does have a longer 'history' w/Rubens & considering Button's recent performance(or lack of) it would seem fairer for the Team to let the drivers have an equal shot at the Title, hopefully. Whatever happens it should be entertaining!
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According to the BBC ( BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula 1 | Standings ) Rubens is 26 points behind Button (44 pts vs 70). I certainly agree that it would be terrific to see Barrichello take the championship - numerically, he and the Red Bull boys are the only ones close to Button.
The problem that Barrichello will have in overtaking Button is that a) both are on the same team, and b) it is a British team. Is Brawn really going to allow a Brazilian to snatch the championship from a Brit? I kind of doubt it... |
Slam's right, post-Valencia, Barrichello is 18 points behind his teammate. Brawn has spent much of his career at Ferrari, where there is always a clear #1 and #2. I don't know if that's the case with his own team, but it would be typical for F1 (McLaren being more the exception than the rule). In any case, I think that the internal team contractual agreements are more likely to determine the question than nationalities. I'm guessing that Button has contractual priority, but that's just a guess.
In any case, I can't agree with Slam that "the 2 that are going to have a run at Button are Rubens & Hamilton". With 6 races left to go, there are a maximum of 60 points left. Hamilton's now 45 points back of Button--too far back to have anything other than a miracle chance, given that Button hasn't finished out of the points in any race yet this year. Mathematically, it's hard to see that anyone other than Barrichello (-18 pts), Webber (-20.5 pts), or Vettel (-25 pts) has a genuine chance at overtaking Button in points.
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