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Old 04-03-2008, 01:08 AM
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my new 75, with an EVO kit...

i just found an add on ebay about a fella wrecking a 3.0lt, so out of curiosity for a few part prices i sent an email for a fair few parts. i wasnt really interested in them, only how much he'd ask because of his other 'pricey' parts.

he rang dad and told him he didnt want the car coming back from the mechanics, after having the engine and box removed. so dad got him to ring me, because of the evo kit. i told him id take it there and then on the phone, without seeing it. $1800AUS

he told me it was complete minus the drive. but it was worth what i payed just for the kit, in my eyes. the rest is bonus.

the head lights are mint. the tail lights are mint [but not the strip], the seats are very clean, as with the rest of the interior, its pretty good, just needs a proper clean out.

if you know your evo's youll notice its missing the front splitter, but i presume that left the car when he hit whatever broke the front bar.
other than that i think the kit was a little rushed to be painted and put on. it has a couple chips and needs to be sanded back, but thats fine. ill get another glass splitter from another QLD guy [a fourm member here].

im pretty sure ill put it on my red 3.0lt, we'll see.
id like to dosomething like an engine conversion with this and track it [drag;prolly not. Drift; maybe. circut; likely].
thinking a V8, carbied/webered. front gearbox, and an indipendant rear with the orig dion. but we'll see. any ideas?

note Gunmetal GTV's GTV there, bodywork finished, and virtally rust free now[dad went NUTS with the rust. Awsome job]... ill have a thread open for that very soon.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:27 AM
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few more pics, including the custom plates for the GTV.
also, the compomotive wheels, 2 piece 15x7 inches. dont know what to do with them yet, but if i keep them, ill get the centers chrome dipped and the outer polished[seen a set of b45s the same, and they looked awsome!].
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hell of a great looking parts car

love those wheels..would love to find a set of those for my gtv6 here in the states

if you want to go V8 with it..consider a mopar 318/360..the engine mount position on them makes them very user friendly and imo fit better than a chevy 350 in "most" swaps....if i wanted to go nuts id probably go with a supra 5 or 6spd and supra rear center diff section(its irs and should be easly adapted to the dedion)...several companys make adapter plates to bolt just about anything to the supra box
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Old 04-03-2008, 03:55 AM
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supra 6 speeds dont have such a great reputaion over here when you get some power into them. dont think ill have too much to worry about powerwise, gotta get the engine in it first.
chev and this mopar[never heard of it, im not a v8 person really] arnt really what i was looking at. currently, v8-wise, it'd be a 253 or 308 from a holden, cheap and easy to come by. aftermarket power is off the shelf in australia.
box wise it would be the original 4speed, smallest box i can think of. remember what ever tunnel i cut closes down on the pedal room. not a great deal of room stock, and i think the supra might be a bit big. maybe sparco race boots??

anyway, i might try and sorce another 3lt, or a 2.5, and fix it up properly. im led to believe that there were only 80 3.0lt's brought into australia. anyone know more?
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Hey man nice find

I'm still working on the cost of the splitter, if you are in Melb I *might* be able to get it shipped down on the cheap too along with a bumper I'm sending down.

Hope the splitter isn't taking too long!
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supra 6 speeds dont have such a great reputaion over here when you get some power into them.

anyway, i might try and sorce another 3lt, or a 2.5, and fix it up properly. im led to believe that there were only 80 3.0lt's brought into australia. anyone know more?


The Getrag has to be one of the strongest boxes out there. With a decent clutch, the engine will go before the gearbox does, and the 2JZ can handle 700hp on stock internals. The box is said to do about 1000 horses.

As for 3.0Ls, yes, the figure is supposed to be about 80-90, not including any personal imports.

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Old 04-03-2008, 03:21 PM
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If you want to start putting in a V8, why not use a Toyota 1UZFE 4ltr quad cam alloy block engine? Heaps better engine the the Holden boat anchors, cheeper, stronger, lighter. There are bellhousings available to bolt the w58 Supra 5 speeds behind them (tonnes better that the Aussie 4 speed POS).
Chev LS1/Gen3.....

As for the Getrag 6 speeds from the JZA80 Supra RZ, very strong, don't know about handling 1000hp, but the trick is finding 1 followed by paying for it . You'd be looking somewhere between $1500-2000 + plus adapting it to another engine

1 thing I'd love to see is a 13B turbo in a 116 chassis. It'd be a great combination with a late model transaxle and 4.1 diff. The balance would/should be great. Set the engine as far back as you could.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:39 PM
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sorry, but i dont know much of the 'getrag' but iv havent heard any good of it, and the 5spd seems to be the prefrance [cost?].

rotary.... sorry, but im not a fan of the little buzz they seem to make, but i dont doubt the power that they can make. already crossed that off, and did so very quickly...

the toyota quad cam... the V8 used in the lexus?
and its the size of the 4spd i like the idea of. an extra gear in the supra [and strength] seem to mean the size takes a decent jump. just thinking of foot/clutch room.
are there any small dogboxes?
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The Getrag 6 speed has strength galor compared to the 5 speeds. Atleast that's what I've read on the Toyota forum (see my list of cars . I want to update the MR2's status from 'soon to be' to 'now', but the forum won't let me ).

Yeah the 1UZFE is from the Soarer's and a few others.

A mate has a Sigma with Supra 5 speed in it, I can get a visual comparison between my 75 tunnel area where a gearbox would live, with his car if you want. Sigma's don't have the biggest trans tunnels and aren't giving away the space in the footwell either.
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sorry, but i dont know much of the 'getrag' but iv havent heard any good of it, and the 5spd seems to be the prefrance [cost?].

are there any small dogboxes?
The getrag (6 speed) is one of the strongest factory gearboxes I know of, I can't actually think of anything else with the same strength. It may be worth having a read on Supra forums to find out more about it. Their strength and adaptability is the prime reason they're so expensive.

Anyway! Dog boxes is just the name given to a gearbox with dog engagement gears. So most of the time you're using your factory gearbox and replacing certain (or all if you had the $$) gears with straight cut or helical cut gears. Of course it would all have to be custom made, so you're looking at big dollars.

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The getrag (6 speed) is one of the strongest factory gearboxes I know of, I can't actually think of anything else with the same strength. It may be worth having a read on Supra forums to find out more about it. Their strength and adaptability is the prime reason they're so expensive.

Anyway! Dog boxes is just the name given to a gearbox with dog engagement gears. So most of the time you're using your factory gearbox and replacing certain (or all if you had the $$) gears with straight cut or helical cut gears. Of course it would all have to be custom made, so you're looking at big dollars.

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The only factory gearbox I would nominate as being stronger than the Getrag 6 speed, from what I've read on the Toyota forum (Toymods), is the Tremec TKO600. There's a bloke on there with a Celica GT4 converted to longditudinal(spellink), rear wheel drive, twin turbo, 1UZFE 4ltr quad cam V8, called GT8 (I like Toymods), that cranks out some serious torque. The chat amongst those who have put in the hard yards (modified the likes of the Supra RZ), suggests that the TKO has an even higher torque capacity than the Getrag. Most will agree that the shift quallity isn't as good with the TKO...... but enough thread jacking .

Stick 1 of Gregs supercharger kits in your car and be happy .

PS, keep Holden engines where they belong (scrap metal bins ), and please don't wreck an Alfa by putting 1 of those things in it. If you want to do a conversion, how about a Nissan 350Z engine? Plenty torque and horsey power without being fat over weight cast iron POS.
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Old 04-07-2008, 02:18 AM
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step away from these engines which seem to cost 1500+.... im a second year apprentice.

the reason i wanted/looked at a holden 253 or 308 is the way they look [carbied V8's] under the engine bay, cost-wise its easy, and they're easy to get your hands on.

carbied engines are easier to set-up compared to the injected ones from my POV. probably a plus for a first time conversion.

the only way for a 'easier' injected conversion would be to buy a already converted car [i know a rally car with the supra non turbo engine reasonably priced], and that way i wouldnt have to sieve through the looms and ecu ect.
engine mounts, fuel system, box and drive, exhaust, and radiator sum up the conversion bits [pretty much the same as doing the v8 carbied option].

at best. i find another 3lt engine, affordable, and reassemble the car for the road.
at worst the car becomes a parts car... i only really bought it for the kit, plus a few other little bits.
im still only loking at the car really, and just throwing ideas around...
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