02-27-2008, 07:47 AM
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To the Milano owners, anyone know the tranny limits?
Question to you 75/Milano owners, or anyone who knows. I know you guys can pump some serious power from those 6s, so.....
Has anyone found a trans limit. I have been hearing spiders hit about 200 and poop. What about the 75 trans?
Thanks guys and gals.
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02-27-2008, 07:54 AM
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check out alfagtv6.com/bb for some good technical info. Greg Gordon, also on this site, says he has found a limit at near 400hp. That's plenty in my book, but after that, you need to install a foward mounted transmission a la BMW or something else that hasn't tried yet.
Hurry up and by a Milano/GTV6 already...
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02-27-2008, 08:00 AM
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Nah grant, I am a spider hunter. 
I was asking this for a buddy who I am trying to convince to buy a Milano. I would love a Milano or GTV6, but the prices are too steep for me.
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02-27-2008, 09:27 AM
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? Milanos are cheap as rocks. GTV6's are just slightly more. Either are a pretty good bargain.
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02-27-2008, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by oldschooleuros
I would love a Milano or GTV6, but the prices are too steep for me.
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 ? Where we are, they are practically paying to have them taken away.
Back to topic; I'm in agreement with the numbers posted above.
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02-27-2008, 11:29 AM
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Fellas, I have checked cars.com, autotrader, all of those for any distance, nothing under 5k!!!!!!! I live in Ohio, and Tennessee during summers. I have been looking, and find nothing. But if I were to buy a Milano, it would have to probably be a verde 3.0
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02-27-2008, 11:55 AM
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Were you going to take a Verde and tear into it to make a monster Milano?
If so, I'd recommend you start with the cheapest possible Milano (say, a Silver edition with a shot engine?) and tear into that. There are lots of threads here in this section about hotting up a Milano, and the most cost effective way to do so is to begin with the cheapest one, not the most expensive one.
On the other hand, if you want a nice driver, esp. a Verde, you're going to have to pony up  Nice, well-sorted Verdes are really hard to come by. Those that have 'em usually hang on to them. |
02-27-2008, 12:04 PM
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Nizam,
Yes, I am looking to make a monster pretty much.
Here is the scenario:
Heading to college in June. I want an Alfa to build during college, (NOT A 164, yet) Either a Milano or Spider.
After college, and most of my build is done, buy the opposite of what I didnt. For example, if I buy a Milano now, buy a spider then, or vice versa.
But, Nizam, I like the Verdes 3.0 V6 motor.
The platinum has a LSD I have heard, and those have 2.5s correct? I have never really seen the 2.5s built, but with a good turbo setup, I imagine they could lay down a good number.
I want a decent running one, and the highest line I can afford.
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02-27-2008, 12:04 PM
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oldschooleuros,
Milanos, even the Verdes, are much cheaper than any Spider in similar condition. For example, here are two active for sale Verdes, both with the same asking price of $3200. I should warn you however, that this time of year cars are much harder to sell as cross-country or long distance drives are not enticing, and this forces sellers to drop their prices. When the warm weather returns, I'm sure these cars (and other cars) will attract broader attention, and their asking prices may go up. Right now at least, they are a bargain. Best regards,
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02-27-2008, 12:14 PM
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Thanks Zunige, depending on when my money hits, I may pick up that Milano in the 1st link if he still has it.
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02-27-2008, 01:19 PM
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? Milanos are cheap as rocks. GTV6's are just slightly more. Either are a pretty good bargain.
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I guess I just really have to keep my eyes peeled. 
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02-27-2008, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by oldschooleuros
But, Nizam, I like the Verdes 3.0 V6 motor.
The platinum has a LSD I have heard, and those have 2.5s correct?
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However ...
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Originally Posted by oldschooleuros
Yes, I am looking to make a monster pretty much.
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then you might as well start with a clean, non-rusted Milano 2.5V6 that runs. In 2008, the 1987's are 21 years old, and the 1989 are 19 years old. A lot of things would have long since worn out - e.g. the clutches in the LSD, and all the bushings, synchros, etc. Having done this before (and am currently doing it again), I find that starting with a cheap runner like a 2.5V6 is cost effective. Since you're going to make a monster, you'd have to build that motor up anyway ... per your statement below:
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Here is the scenario:
Heading to college in June. I want an Alfa to build during college, (NOT A 164, yet) Either a Milano or Spider.
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Now that you're part of the AlfaBB community, you'll start to see more options with respect to engine mods, suspension mods, and best of all the availability of these items. Don't forget that some of us also upgrade which means we'd sell the parts we're replacing back into the community
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02-27-2008, 01:57 PM
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Thanks Nizam.
I guess this is what I need to do.
Quit being so picky (ha) and source a nice one out. If I can get a Verde, awesome. If I have to get a platinum, awesome too. I suppose I can make it into the same motor eventually.
Now, you seem very reputable. I know some of the 164 3.0 motors are quad cam, are the milano 3.0 motors quad cam? If so, how about the 2.5? I know it is an interference motor, and a t belt job will be done right away.
I will be strait forward. I will be looking to spend about 5k MAX on my first Alfa. Once I graduate, I will be a little more leniant lol. I know how I am, I will become very addicted to Alfas, and probably own a ton of them and go bankrupt  lol.
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02-27-2008, 02:22 PM
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The only Alfa engines in the U.S. which had 4 camshafts (3 liters and 24 valves) were the "164 LS" and "164 Q" models which were sold in 1994 and 1995. In other words, all U.S. 164s from '94 and '95 had 4 cams.
164 models sold from 1991 through 1993, inclusive all had 2 camshafts, and were 3 liters with 12 valves. The '91-'93 models were the "B", "L" and "S". And of course, the earlier models, the Milanos, also had 2 camshafts.
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02-27-2008, 02:46 PM
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but this one goes to 11..
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I know of a Verde in Cali with a salvage title for $2300. It's really clean with most of the important work done by a friend of mine. I missed out on it for $1500 by a day or so and could kick myself for it. If you were to track/street it this would be the way to go. Yes, a GTV6 will be more in similar shape but Milano's are a pretty cheap way to go.
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