11-10-2007, 07:34 AM
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I'm having some terrible thoughts here...
There has to be a better way...    I wouldn't do the front - just the rear.
I am told that the universal connection is of some unique design and that the entire setup is VERY light!
From what I've read the shifter is THE BEST ever...
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11-10-2007, 09:11 AM
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and it comes off a ....?
Is the cluch also at the rear or is a torquetube needed?
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11-10-2007, 01:04 PM
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well i dont recognize it so it must not be american parts and it must be something imported newer than 95
so what is it already?
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11-10-2007, 01:46 PM
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6-speed, Japanese, RWD...
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11-10-2007, 01:50 PM
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it's just a diff right, not a transaxle?
Honda S2000? Mazda Miata MX5? Mazda RX8?
Hell, they all have good gearboxes...
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11-10-2007, 02:42 PM
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silvia? skyline? ....im pretty much betting on nissan...too bad you dont have some of the surrounding stucture to make things easyer
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11-10-2007, 04:22 PM
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Deffinately not Nissan, I have to agree with giuliettaevo
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11-10-2007, 07:28 PM
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S2000...
If I do go this route, it will only be next year and I'll keep the Milano/75 front-end and then use the S2000 forward-mounted gearbox and bell-housing (with an adapter-plate to the 3.7 24 valve Alfa engine) and then the Honda drive-line and entire rear platform.
This means that I will be converting the front hubs to whatever the S2000 runs (to now match the S2000 rear running-gear.) Apparently it is real simple, real light, real cheap, real strong and I KNOW that it shifts amazingly!
A buddy here is converting ALL of the S2000 running gear (including the motor) in to his Corolla Ec20-whatever (last RWD model...) Bloody things are light too!
We'll see.
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11-10-2007, 07:55 PM
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Seriously, the amount of work you are looking at there you may as well construct a tube framed 75 shell and go champ car underneath it.
Mid engined, race car suspension, super uber light race car.
At least then it would be worth the effort, this is just too much for just a S2000 rear end and shifter.
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11-10-2007, 08:38 PM
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JJ,
If you really do this (which I personally think is a bit wacky) with a 3.7, I would try find a setup that is proven with that kind of HP and torque. Anyway, I'm not sure what you want to achieve. I hate to say this, but why not just get an s2000, or E46 BMW M3 (should be cheap soon), or ...  I would be concerned about the weight balance - I just had my street Milano on corner scales, and the Milano is already nose heavy - 54.5%.
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11-10-2007, 09:05 PM
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i dont see why so many ppl hop up and down about swaps ?!?!?!?...heaven forbid someone hack up an alfa in the sake of makeing it BETTER!!!
personaly i LOVE the idea..the work itself isnt going to be horable..its all about pulling out the plasmacutter and sawzall and makeing sure everything stays square
my ONLY issue is...whats the s2k breaking point (in other words how much HP/TQ will it take befor it goes boom)
great thinking and keep thinking outside of the box!
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11-10-2007, 09:06 PM
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I still like the idea of the fwd alfa setup from a newer alfa, welded in the back as rear engine rwd...
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11-10-2007, 09:46 PM
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How about full Skyline GTR 4 whell drive transmission  I've seenit done (on another forum) in an early RWD Toyota Celica, complete with twin turbo Toyota V8..... Where does it all end
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11-10-2007, 10:29 PM
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Well, exactly! That's why I'm not out there "puttin' a beeeck-blauk inna Nover"...
Putting a Chevy in a Ford or vice-a-versa, or slappin' an S2000 in a To-yo-ter is just not for me - and I have tried to keep the thing as much an Alfa as possible! (Sure - the forgies are from Ross and the c'molly rods are from Pauter etc etc), but for the most part I didn't take the "no substitute for cubic inches" approach with this thing - throwing any and all degree of class - not to mention some reverence for the marqué - to the wind...
It still has an Alfa engine, Alfa gearbox, the original suspension mounting-points and engine-mounts - even the Alfa dash and wind-shield. It is all loosely based on mods that Alfa themselves did (design of the body-kit etc etc...) That being said, there remains one aspect that TRULY can not be modified enough to make it worth a **** and that is the gearbox and shift-linkage!
It is the one area that even with 5-6-7K EURO Collotti innards, still delivers sub-par performance in shifting and reliability and longevity of the case, the clutch-housing etc! Not to mention the stupid GUIBO setup...
I dunno - this is where I'm very torn! Going with a front-mounted setup (like Dawie has done numerous times with a 6-speed Getrag gearbox up front and an Alfa SEI (Six) sedan dif. at the rear), is enough of a departure from the original design to begin with - leave alone throwing a Japanese setup in there...!
However, I so would love to complete this thing with a drive-line setup worthy of the rest of it!
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11-10-2007, 11:22 PM
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different is ALWAYS better
..totaly agree with you and the small block sawp..its been done over and over and theres no originality in it any more...thus the reason im going alfa on my lloyd
its to bad you couldnt get a 6spd gearbox and mount it in the back directly to a diff.....probably doable with alot of aluminum fab work...in order to "try" and keep the balance |
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