Alfa V10 in a 164??

[Gabor K.]

Lanciabill: Nice to see pictures of your engine! It would actually be a sorry fate to have it serve as base for a table! Isn´t it possible to get it in working order? Would be interesting to hear about its history!

Saw some time ago a similar Indy engine converted to petrol fuel and without turbos for sale.

About the origins of the Alfa engine, its hard to be sure because there are different stories. So what to believe, I think one has to use common sense. What I have read, they are not the same and Alfa constructed it inhouse. The engines are very different in concept as the Ferrari has the turbo on top and breathes the opposite way of the Alfa. If its so that Alfa inherited the Ferrari engine, at least they had to change the heads. They could just as well have made a new engine based on what they learned of the Chevrolet engines they had for loan in house?!

A qoute from Wiki:
Technical Ferrari 637
For a car that was supposedly only a bargaining tool, the 637 was well engineered and carefully thought out. The upper body was made of aluminium, mechanically bonded and glued to the lower carbon frame. The Type 034 engine was a turbocharged 32-valve, 90-degree 2.65-litre V8, as per the CART regulations, which used upward mounted exhausts.

When Alfa Romeo unveiled their (unrelated) 2.65-litre Indycar engine, it was in the back of a March chassis; however it was seen testing at Fiorano in the 637 chassis.


A couple of factory photos of the Alfa engine and then the Ferrari engine.

[sh0rtlife]

if i can stop drooling

what i see between the 2 is intresting...only a look at the front of the ferrari block would confirm or deny it...but look at the 2 water pumps and runners on the ferrari compared to the water pump setup on the alfa......same location and setup...loose the air plenum mounting to the water pumps and im guessing the engines are rather closely releated

[lanciabill]

Wow, thanks for the press pics of the motor. I have never seen what the finished product looked like up close. That is one big @ss turbo.

I am missing so many parts on it, the only thing I had thought of to enjoy the hardware was to make a table of it in my office. It is missing the valves, etc. I would have to buy or fabricate so much of it that its just not worth doing. It would be cheaper to buy a whole motor than doing that.

I did see a press packet of the March 89C on evilbay. I just might spring for it. At least I can have some documentation of the motor.

That last pick, Gabor K, is that the known Ferrari car and engine? the air configuration is completely backwards. the intake on the bottom cam and the exhaust on the top.