05-19-2007, 04:17 PM
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Cool...the Milano is a pretty good value then.
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05-19-2007, 06:31 PM
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Cool...the Milano is a pretty good value then.
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 but the spirit is there! I always liked the chassis and steering on the Milanos.
I guess I should stop hijacking this thread. 
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05-22-2007, 01:34 AM
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I have driven plenty of Milanos and I run with no PS. I wouldn't want one with the PS. I love the raw feel. Yeah, it sucks in parking lots and there ain't no possibilty of multi-tasking... but then again, I'm driving an Alfa, right?
Talk about feel... what I really like is with a good amount of caster and stiff sidewall tires and no PS, this thing snaps out of high speed corners like a freakin' jet fighter. I have yet to feel another car like this... hence my addiction 
FWIW, I finally ditched the PS pump and AC stuff too. It's in a box in my garage and if anybody wants all of my PS and AC stuff, PM me and offer to pay for shipping and it's yours. |
05-23-2007, 08:25 PM
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OK, one thing to keep in mind before ditching the PS is that ZF has said at one point that the Milano rack was the best PS steering rack they have ever built. I think I remember reading that they were talking in terms of steering feel and weight, wich I think is fantastic.
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05-23-2007, 08:42 PM
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This is just what Greg Gordon wrote on his website. Argue with him about it if you want. I'm just the messenger.
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1989 Verde - Harsh shocks and SS rears, 27mm torsion bars, stainless lines, pads, 16X7.5 rims, 4.10 rebuilt platinum tranny, poly bushes, and RSR 28mm front and 25.4mm adjustable sways!
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02-14-2008, 03:55 AM
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I'm looking for some where to get my hands on a new or second hand power steering rack for a 1991 Alfa 33. I'm based in Canberra
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02-14-2008, 09:24 AM
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I agree that the Milano power steering has great feel and balance but the quality control at ZF must be dismal. As mine is leaking AGAIN I am considering the conversion.
Do the TS (euro75) even have power steering??
Those converting a GTV 6 to Milano power steering must be glutton for punishment. Before I used a 20 year old (poor) design, I think I would look into some of of the very interesting advances made in electric power steering.
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02-14-2008, 09:33 AM
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The GTV6 power steering has been done with success many times with known and available parts. What would an electric conversion cost? five thousand or more with r&d perhaps? No thanks!
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02-14-2008, 03:50 PM
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Not sure what you mean by ZF quality control, Ive had several toyotas in the family all of which had leaky racks after about 100k or so miles. Thats certainly no better than the racks on my two milanos. Not to mention the toyo are really hard to work on.
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I plan to fit the power steering from a 75 onto my 1984 GTV 2 litre. It makes the car far more nimble in my opinion. I can throw my 75 around corners and roundabouts a lot quicker than the GTV. The effort required to turn the GTV is a pain. Removing the power steering would lower your resale value too I would have thought.
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02-14-2008, 09:31 PM
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My ZF failed at 66K and now the remaned one leaks at 104K. Not exactly Toyota quality. Lets face it the ZF rack is a weak point on the Milano. Im sure the guys that converted to manual did'nt do it to increase forearm strength.
My Alfa mechanic says they last 3-4 years, then they all leak.
I admit I have not not studied the electric option in detail, but it is being used by the Hot Rod crowd (small pump hidden) The article I read talked about a kit (column, pump and rack) priced under $1000. Not bolt in for any Alfa to be sure. But it might be worth investigating before dismissing the idea as ludicrous.
If anybody can recommend one remanufactured rack over another then I'm in the market.
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(because of no stock) suprise suprise, mines getting re worked on a week turn around exchange (kind of) basis whilst my motor is still out.... it doesn't leak, it groans! £186 inc vat (GBP) which i thought was very reasonable
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02-15-2008, 06:42 AM
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I admit I have not not studied the electric option in detail, but it is being used by the Hot Rod crowd (small pump hidden) The article I read talked about a kit (column, pump and rack) priced under $1000. Not bolt in for any Alfa to be sure. But it might be worth investigating before dismissing the idea as ludicrous.
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02-15-2008, 07:53 AM
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As posted when the PS is working it's excellent and I like the feel, so I wll probably just get a new rack, knowing it will have to be done again. Time and $$ that could be spent on more important mods.
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02-15-2008, 08:14 AM
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Try Joergen Racks. They seem to have the best prices and a great reputation.
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