05-17-2007, 06:59 PM
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It is the best, there is no question about it.
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05-17-2007, 07:14 PM
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--Just Kidding 
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05-17-2007, 07:30 PM
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The E30's is too light, I don't like it.
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05-17-2007, 10:39 PM
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I read that the E30 have 4.0 turns lock to lock which is pretty darn slow. The E30 M3's have a faster ratio. A common mod is to put in an E36 rack or an E30 M3 rack into a standard E30.
I searched and found our Milano rack is about 18:1 steering ratio compared to 19.6:1 steering ratio of the E30 M3. The standard BMW E30 is about 20.5:1. The Milano rack sounds quick until you realize an Evo has a 13:1 ratio or a BMW e46 M3 Competition Pack at 14.6:1. I thought that the 164S rack was noticeably quicker than the Milano. At some point, you get tired of folding arms through the corners.
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05-18-2007, 01:04 AM
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Once again, amazing what can be learnt on this board.
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05-18-2007, 01:47 AM
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I was totally kidding BTW. I respect E30's, but I don't want one.
I drove an E30 M3 a couple of times, it was quite a hoot. Seems like a really fun track toy right out of the box. There's also an E30 318is with an iron block 1.8 liter 4 banger with a forged crankshaft and 4 valve heads good for 150hp. They're like a really cheap M3. The best part: they have a curb weight of around 2500lbs 
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05-18-2007, 09:13 AM
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Power steering in Milano and BMW 318i
I drove a 1991 BMW 318i, with the M42 twincam four (1.8L and I think about 135 hp) for four years, putting about 120K miles on it. It was the only non-Italian car I've ever owned that rivaled my Alfas for 'fun-to-drive' as well as 'reasonably easy to work on'. The power steering was quick enough for my tastes and had pretty good feel, but I'd agree it was too light (overboosted). More recent BMWs, by the way, are even worse in that respect, I feel their steering is WAY too light. But then again, I thought my Milano steering was much too light with the power assist operational -- I'm much happier now with the p.s. belt snipped.
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05-18-2007, 08:54 PM
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I drove a 1991 BMW 318i, with the M42 twincam four (1.8L and I think about 135 hp) for four years, putting about 120K miles on it. It was the only non-Italian car I've ever owned that rivaled my Alfas for 'fun-to-drive' as well as 'reasonably easy to work on'. The power steering was quick enough for my tastes and had pretty good feel, but I'd agree it was too light (overboosted). More recent BMWs, by the way, are even worse in that respect, I feel their steering is WAY too light. But then again, I thought my Milano steering was much too light with the power assist operational -- I'm much happier now with the p.s. belt snipped.
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1989 Verde - Harsh shocks and SS rears, 27mm torsion bars, stainless lines, pads, 16X7.5 rims, 4.10 rebuilt platinum tranny, poly bushes, and RSR 28mm front and 25.4mm adjustable sways!
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05-19-2007, 06:43 AM
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How'dja know about my truck? It's a '55, by the way.
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05-19-2007, 10:39 AM
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It is the best, there is no question about it.
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About the only steering rack I like better is one in the Ferrari F355 ... which by the way is also a ZF.
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05-19-2007, 12:03 PM
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What makes it better?
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1989 Verde - Harsh shocks and SS rears, 27mm torsion bars, stainless lines, pads, 16X7.5 rims, 4.10 rebuilt platinum tranny, poly bushes, and RSR 28mm front and 25.4mm adjustable sways!
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05-19-2007, 12:14 PM
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The weight and the ratio is "just right" (a very subjective issue, I know), with enough feel for roadway irregularities, but with enough damping to cancel out every single fricken' pebble from jolting the steering wheel. Car is easy to park, and the turning circle is surprisingly decent.
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The weight and the ratio is "just right" (a very subjective issue, I know), with enough feel for roadway irregularities, but with enough damping to cancel out every single fricken' pebble from jolting the steering wheel. Car is easy to park, and the turning circle is surprisingly decent.
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I certainly wouldn't want a Milano without it, especially when rebuilt racks are readily available.
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05-19-2007, 02:07 PM
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Yeah, but Joe, he's describing that of an F355. The Milanos do seem to kick back little pebbles...especially when it's lowered and you have bump steer problems. It's refreshingly raw though.
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1989 Verde - Harsh shocks and SS rears, 27mm torsion bars, stainless lines, pads, 16X7.5 rims, 4.10 rebuilt platinum tranny, poly bushes, and RSR 28mm front and 25.4mm adjustable sways!
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05-19-2007, 02:49 PM
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Yeah, but Joe, he's describing that of an F355. The Milanos do seem to kick back little pebbles...especially when it's lowered and you have bump steer problems. It's refreshingly raw though.
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