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09-20-2007, 06:46 PM
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Though, IMO the RSR and Giro are a waste of $$ on a street car.
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 If that was true then pretty much any performance street car would be a waste - we would all drive cars with a max speed of 65-70 mph   Seriously, particular the RSR really changes the feel of the car. Even for a street car this is very noticeable and inspires confidence in the car's abilities.
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For around $150.00 you can get the 20mm spacers from Charlie at Serpent. That should really make it look filled-out in the rear! Like we like it! http://www.serpentautosport.com/whee...ories_lugs.htm
I bought these but the extended lug nuts just dont make it through the wheel holes - yet.  |
It is was a straight bolt-on I would get it for the race car (Roxanne). Though, I don't feel like pulling the hubs apart this time around to press out old studs and longer ones back in. Anyway, spacers are on the horizon for the race car (although not right now), but for the street car I don't plan to add spacers.
The idea is for Juliet to be a daily driver perhaps attending the odd single day open track days. For the serious track activity (=race) Roxanne is obviously the better car.
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09-20-2007, 09:12 PM
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*right click and Save As*
The wheels and that height make it look so damn good. Damn the non-existance of TD dealers in Australia!
ROCK ON
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09-21-2007, 09:44 AM
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...IMO the RSR and Giro are a waste of $$ on a street car. 'Course, you obviously have more disposable income than I and you have to do something w/17's or the stock brakes will look tiny- ...
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The RSR suspension was developed on a world class race-course - THE NURBURGRING - it was build for road use (I'd say 90% of the cars running RSR are road/street-track cars) and I LOVE it on my street-car too! With the various spring rates available, it can be as mild or as wild as you want it.
Ditto for the Group 2/GiroDisc brakes - a fantastic upgrade for these cars and nothing to do with extra dollars to burn. With a lighter car, good fresh, rebuilt stock brakes may be OK, but with the 2900 pounds of a road-car, the brakes have never been heralded on these cars as something worth mentioning!
I get zero fade on the track and zero squeal on the street with my G2/GiroDisc setup - 2 years later on the same pads! No excessive effort required - just a fantastic setup all around! I run this car HARD on the track once a month during the dry-season!
Performatek doesn't sell the Group2/GiroDisc brakes - Group 2 does - www.group2inc.com - Spacers? Well, you have a fundamental problem; the optimal handling for one of these cars comes with a significantly lower ride-height. Spacing the wheels out WITHOUT modifying the arches runs you right in to the fenders! So, the compromise is lower with optimal handling, but you have to be VERY careful over parking lot speed bumps and curbs and no - you don't get to bring the wheels out flush with the fender like we all want, or - higher stance - looks ****ty - wheels spaced out (looks nice) and it's safer over bumps and not the best handling that these cars can muster...
Oh - and by the way - I am broke and I have two sets of everything!
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09-21-2007, 09:50 AM
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I had inquired at Outlaw about calipers for the 116 (they make 'em for the 115) cars. Todd over there forwarded my inquiree to Andy at Performatek and he sent me a response with some pics of their kit. Runs $1300.00.
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'95 164 LS - 6-Speed 3.45 L 24V w/UniChip - Burgundy
'94 164 LS Auto - Baby Seat! - Bronze
'84 GTV6 (24 Valve & GoTech Soon!) - Silver
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09-21-2007, 12:26 PM
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We've heard it all b4 JJ - You're preachin' to the choir. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the stock brake setup on the Milano (for the street & actually, shorter races). Slap some Porterfields or Hawk carbon pads (or Ferodo/EBC/StopTech) and DOT4 fluid with braided lines and you're done.
You know what they say, Opinion's are like a$$holes, everyone's got one!
Don't let my opinion shatter your fragile image. Jes, the 20mm spacer doesn't require longer studs, just the extended lug nuts. - 'course, if the wheels had the right offset (backspacing) you wouldn't need 'em.
You guys take yourselves wayyyy too seriously, and while I respect your affiliations JJ, I'm not gonna take $hit from a guy who can run a thread from start to finish all by himself, posting pictures of washers and such. I have yet to see one project you've worked on go to fruition. Hey, what happened to cchan's car? 1) No Start 2) Can't get power to the ground and too embarrased to post dyno runs after spending tens of thousands....
The RSR kit speaks for itself, so put a sock in it why don't cha?
My apologies everyone else for having to bear witness... 
Jes, you have a beautiful car & you've shown that you know how to pick 'em.
Your mods are tasteful and functional. Best wishes to you and the Verde you've given a woman's name to. 
arrivederci
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09-21-2007, 03:27 PM
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Jes, the 20mm spacer doesn't require longer studs, just the extended lug nuts.
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At least that is my take on the info on that site.
Jes
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09-21-2007, 03:29 PM
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So Jes - now I have a fragile self-image AND you're frivolous with your money (and I don't finish anything and have conversations with myself about washers and you piss away money on useless modifications...) Geeze - I guess this guy just owned both of us!!! Think I'll just go and crawl in a hole now and die or something...
What an arsehole - dude - you speak of things you do not know. Quit insulting the decisions of others within their own threads (you did it on CChan's wheels as well as referring to members' choices in donour cars as "ratty" on more than one occasion - par for the course for you...)
Take a cup of STFU already - stick to drifting videos on youtube...
When you actually build something that can compare (or just anything besides bolting on spacers and new wheels), come and raise your hostile, senseless opinions here...
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09-21-2007, 05:02 PM
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Nah - not going to waste my time with this wanker - the bent valve 4-cam 164 cars that I have rescued from the crushers along the way, rebuilt and sold to other happy members (WHILE moving my own personal long-term projects forward), are well documented here!
I don't have to prove anything to this plonker! I have my enemies and I have my friends; fortunately I am also blessed with the discernment to recognize both AND not worry about it too much, either way! Posers like that are always real brave behind the key-board there...
If my projects take longer because I take the time to help others with their projects along the way, then so be it. I am taking my time and always have at least 3-4 projects going on at the same time. I am taking my time and doing it right and working on 10 other things simultaneously.
Besides, this guy likes to come within the threads of other members, sling mud and insult their choices in builds/parts/repairs/accessories - not my style - what has he ever built any way?
This is Jes' thread on Juliet.
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'95 164 LS - 6-Speed 3.45 L 24V w/UniChip - Burgundy
'94 164 LS Auto - Baby Seat! - Bronze
'84 GTV6 (24 Valve & GoTech Soon!) - Silver
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Here are some pics from this morning with the car on the ground.
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what's next - little square headlights
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Now you're half-way there for a complete G2/GD setup for their complete Willwood Ultalight 4-piston front AND custom rear setup! PLUS you get aluminium floating hats front AND rear as well as vented aluminium hat rears (spaced out a la SZ but with aluminium bells rather than cast-iron solid discs!)
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09-24-2007, 11:06 AM
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In all fairness, the first post to bring up and discuss prices and products (totally unmotivated by the way) was post #58 from ToonRBoy.
Perhaps we should ask Simon for a new section on the BB: pi$$ing contests
Jes
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Hey Papaya-boy - aren't you supposed to be in school...? Say hi to Jr. for me - nice going...
Your buddy drifter-boy brought up a silver-bullet price for half a system and I simply pointed out that now you are half-way there on the real thing. (And yes, that was back in post # 58...) Talk about a walking billboard post - go read it!
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'94 164 LS Auto - Baby Seat! - Bronze
'84 GTV6 (24 Valve & GoTech Soon!) - Silver
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Well as long as we are posting stuff for sale here, I have a transmission out of an '84 GTV6 for sale.
BTW: Nice car Jes, I don't really like red cars but that one is very nice indeed. |
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