Callaway 12valve turbo kit FS...who's crazy enough?

[Azzurri GTV]

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Originally posted by nizam By the way, I'm curious. How much would you pay for a twin turbo, bolt on kit for your V6 Milano or GTV6? I'm talking about a complete bolt-on kit, which includes pistons, turbos, manifolds, intercooler, ECU wiring, exhaust, and a turbo gauge?

[nizam]

Not to be a smart aleck, but you wouldn't shell out $4,900 for such a kit wouldja?

Is $4,900 too much? Would $4,500 be better?

[italcarguy]

i been looking at this thread. the more i go to that site selling the kit, the more i say to myself, i'd get it for sure if i had my priorities up my a$$. its not a bad price for that stuff. at least i think it's not.

[BigSwede]

It's old technology.... Doesn't include pistons or anything to lower compression.

If you seriously think you can make a serious TT conversion for under 5000 USD you need to think again.
But to make something that matches this kit isn't going to be very expensive.

-A couple of used turbos
-some pipes
-manifolds can be expensive but if you cam make your own, not too expensive.
-megasquirt.
-used throttlebodies
-intercooler? why bother, the Callawy one isnt going to do any good sitting between the engine and hood anyway...

For me there is no magic whatsoever in the Callaway name, This wasn't something Alfa in Italy ordered, this was something the American Importer got toghether.
Even If you put that stuff on a GTV6 you don't have a Callaway, at least not in my book.

[Rocketjosh]

Drop a V6 3.0 with that turbo kit into a 71 GTV? mmmmmmm... I'll keep dreaming that I have the money (and the space under the hood).

[nizam]

Bigswede ... you have friends that have done a similar conversion right? Or perhaps you have done so yourself. How much can one expect to spend (realistically) to get a turbo system up and running for a car that wasn't set up for a turbo from a factory?

(keep in mind, folks, that the Alfa V6 isn't a widely used motor and there is no existing plumbing for a turbo kit, everything has to be fabricated ... low run numbers too ... no more than ten kits, I'd expect)

[Azzurri GTV]

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Originally posted by nizam Bigswede ... you have friends that have done a similar conversion right? Or perhaps you have done so yourself. How much can one expect to spend (realistically) to get a turbo system up and running for a car that wasn't set up for a turbo from a factory?

[Hit an Apex]

link of the day.
http://www.turbopeople.com

> Only 5 minutes away from me, these people know what they are doing

[nizam]

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E46 M3 vs Eclipse GSX

edited to fix broken link

[bfrymire]

Nizam,

The link didn't work for me....

-- brett

[junglejustice]

Nizam, no, I don't have high compression pistons yet...

Any way, I don't know man; 5 grand ain't bad if you are so inclined, but you still need to do the engine work... I had less than that invested in my Nitrous set-up in the Q45 BTW and it was a blast!

Harware cost: 200 bucks
Computer remapping: $2000
Installation 150 bucks

Bang: 105 horses (with a "sissy kit") and a small jet, this was a "dry" system, (much safer) not always on - computer controlled by the TPS NICE kick...

Didn't have to screw with the engine internals either!

I persoanally wouldn't go Turbo OR Nitro on the Alfa though...

I'd go supercharger. It will kill the low-end torque, but then again, this car has plenty. Maybe you can do a clutch for it?

The problem is all of this work and then you still have to do the piston work to make the extra power - I want a solution where I can keep the standard pistons - like I did on the Q...

[AlfaRacer75]

I would pay $5000 for a nicely done twin turbo kit in a heartbeat.

It must include low comp forged pistons & rods, programmable FI with base maps, intercooler(s), plumbing, turbos, nice manifolds that will last, etc.

Make it fit the 24v too

[nizam]

bfrymire - link fixed.

[BigSwede]

Nizam: It all depends on how much you want to spend. A friend of mine is building a 164 RWD twin turbo but he is doing all the stuff himself or know someone who can do it = less cash.
For a kit that has been tested and everything is bolt-on, that is worth a lot of cash in my world, example: another friend of mine had just put his engine together and was just finished mapping the fuel and ignition. On the first real test drive the key in the front pulley for the cambelt broke -> 20 valves bent (i.e. all of them) plus damaged pistons and the head was toast. Thats a lot more then 5000 USD right there.
So he bought an old IMSA engine instead...

A mild twin turbo kit doesn't have to be very expensive but when you are going for custom forged pistons and rods it's getting expensive, and then you need to do the heads otherwise you won't be using the kit's full potential and so on...

Come to think of it, I can make the necessary flages for the manifolds lazercut...

[nizam]

Hi BigSwede,

I've been pricing stuff out and the raw material alone is more than $3,000. This is for new stuff of course (who would want to buy a kit that has used turbos of unknown history?)

I haven't yet included any labor, machining time, or dyno time. I guess I could make a low pressure turbo but any way I look at it, I can't run my 10.0:1 pistons that I have in my 3.0V6. That means new pistons -- I ain't decking some perfectly good pistons!!!

My estimation, if I did a lot of this work myself, and use the tooling at a nearby high school (they have mills and lathes I have access to), weld the manifolds myself (intake and exhaust) I could probably make one untested and undebugged kit for about $5,000. Doesn't leave any room for a profit, though. I might have to become altruistic and create and sell these kits for cost because I love my Alfa bruthas.