Drift?

[Grant]

I'd actually say the Milano (V6 model atleast) is quite difficult to slide compared to just about any other front engine, RWD japanese car aout there that I've tried (2nd Gen RX-7, Celica Supra, Cressida, S13-S14 240sx, S12 200sx).

I think what makes the car so difficult is its relatively high weight (~3000lbs for a US model), crappy hand brake, and weak drive train.

Look up the "drift bible" on youtube some time, and you'll see how abusive drifters are on their cars, and why an Alfa might not hold up.

Oh, and for a beginner, a working LSD is a must!! One other point, most set ups actually are set up to UNDERSTEER, rather than over to increase the stability of the car at higher and higher speeds when sliding. You want to develop skills to induce the oversteer, not rely on the car's poor handling to create it.

[DonBeeson]

I have no troubles getting the rear end loose on my verde.

But i dont like to. You definitely need to make the suspension biased to have oversteer or understeer. The stock setup of the milano can make it really hard to judge where your car is going to go if you actually lose control. Not to mention the 'near 50/50' weight distribution makes it even harder to judge.
Anyways just my 50 cents. You guys already covered how to make it a better drifter.

[Cykke]

Are there any 75 drift projects that you work on, or know of?

Recently I got myself a 75 2.0 TS, and I intend to prepare it for drift. Nothing spectacular, just to learn to drift in it. So it can be called noob drift project.
So, I'm interested if there are some people that worked on similiar project, and if someone can give me advice on what should be done on it?

Cheers

[bryan]

Can't say that I have a drift project, but I will say that you chose a great car to drift. The weight balance is perfect and they're the easiest car to drift that I have experienced. Had a guy tell me once, "if you can't drift a milano, just give up."

recommendation: do something to get body roll in check (fat anti-roll bars or stiff springs/torsion bars)

Good Luck

[tectoteam]

A friend do a similar thing.

in 75ts...with very low budget.
he just rebuild transmission to keep safe.
good tires, front high grip, rear a toyo model is dedicated to drift i remenber he say he fit.

he did just those mods.;

-rear ultra stiff anti roll bar to make rear sliding under hard roll body car movement
-LSD very hard to 45% with 4 friction shims, to keep traction when a wheel is really underload

thats all.....real..and for fun it looks like a awesome $/fun ratio.

have a nice fun with your miano

[Rookie ROX]

A simple search will answer your question

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/sear...earchid=494970

There are quite a few people on here who play around with drifiting their Milano, with a few videos as well

ROCK ON
R~R

[Cykke]

Thank you for your answers...

Also, does anyone know if there is a good forum for drifting with european cars, real alfas esspecially?

[Joe Milano]

Any milano is easy to drift due to the the near 50/50 weight distribution, if you have the right technique. I'd say it's better to learn to do it with an open rear end. You'll be a better drifter in the long run if you learn how to take advantage of the weight transfer (weight transfer is what it's all about). All you need is gas, brake and steering. Get the LSD later. Learn to do a trail braking drift (very easy with this car), you really want to get a feel for how to throw the car around (pay attention to what you're feeling through the wheel). Clutch kicks and and pulling the handbrake are too easy, and they're just a way of "automaticaly" losing traction in the rear so it's hard to get a good sence of what's going on. In my opinion you want a good solid base before you get in the habit of doing clutch kicks and handbrake pulls. Also, try to find a good safe dirt or gravel road or parking lot so you can practice with the car moving at lower speeds. You might want to increase your tire pressure so they don't pop of the rims. The drift bible is definetly very helpful and http://www.driftsession.com/ is a good site if you haven't found it already.

[Cykke]

Thanks for the reply and advices Joe

My Milano already has an LSD, and I got myself plastic cones yesterday

[alfamarty]

hey Grant - I just got an old school drift car 86 corolla gt-s at an auction - big fun! it blows my mind - I'd say it would give my gtv a run for it's money-time to put a turbo or something in the gtv - it even handles great on Sharp Park Road-

[Grant]

MARTY!!!!!!! HOLY COW. You found a gold mine. Please, sell it to me! I used to tell Sean about that car but he never cared :]

[Grant]

Interesting advice, but I'd say to learn the other way around. It's good to learn the correct way, but weight transfer (feint) to initiate the slide is more of an advanced technique that is also usually done at higher speeds.

I'm not sure where this guy is going to practice, but it's very easy to start sliding the opposite way you want to go and hit a curb using weight transfer if you don't know what you're doing! I tell my friends to start off with the basic stuff (clutch kick, e-brake) and get COMFORTABLE with throttle control and oversteer before they kill themselves trying to feint a turn at high speeds..

[alfaholic75]

dont forget most proper drift cars dont actually have a a LSD i help prepare a car that enters in the D1 drift championship of which we came third overall last year. we use any diff and weld them up solid!! they occasionally break but its the only way to go! you get 100%results all the time and it is truly amazing how easy it becomes.

[Joe Milano]

I didn't mean for him to try a feint drift (by swerving one way and then the other). I only ment for him to get used to front and back weight transfer. The milano is easy to drift just by riding the brake into a corner. Though you might be right that clutch kicks and pulling the e-brake are a safer way to get the feel of how oversteer works. In general I'd say learning to drift is dangerous if you don't have a big open area to go off into if you screw up. I'm glad that cones are being used.

[Grant]

Also, is your car on stock suspension? My Verde, with ABS disabled, doesn't have nearly enough rear brake bias to trail brake anything! Front locks up all the time.

Welding diffs is AWESOME!! Until you do it wrong or something, and you're like, testing the unregistered car on a back road, and like, some slag gets into the ring and pinion, and like, the rear tires lock up goign 50 MPH, and like, the neighbor calls the police on you, and they like come and nearly impound your car

But only stupid people woudl let that happen =]