DEMON Milano Drafts - Page 3

streetfame · #31 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rz133

this looks beautiful on a roundish car!
i like the milano's front only the headlights should be switched left to right and turned around, if i am clear??

streetfame · #32 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 06:23 PM

Here is where the present draft has progressed. I kept several styling cues that are very subtle. There is a mix of old and new and retro lines that work even more with the Milano as I intended. These drafts take quite a bit of time to do and once again, it is not finished and awaiting creative and progressive ideas.

Who's in?

streetfame

junglejustice · #33 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 06:44 PM

WOW! I love it!

Can we try out dumping the black section on the hood and grafting in a flat(er) Milano hood with the GTV6 style bulge...? She's looking a bit bloaty.

Jes - two articles on those guys - they were talking about a second car in fact, but I think that it was just the red one repainted...

**randyleepublic** · #34 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 07:20 PM

Milano concepts are blooming!!

My latest imaginary disease is to get a 1900 CSS and give it the full Demon treatment. Like one of those really high end american customs only about half the size and tasteful.

The purists would hunt me down with pitchforks and torches.

**dscottj** · #35 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 08:22 PM

Ok, it's getting there, but it's still not there (IMO). In the current treatment, the headlights are too small, and since we're distilling and "distincting" the Milano, square headlights are where it's at. The front dam also dominates. I know that's the current style, and it has its moments, but I think of all things this particular habit of emphasizing "belt down" styling will end up what defines "early 21st century" kitsch. Again, just IMO. And get off my lawn, BTW

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I know, I know, to each his own. Still, we're all about bucking trends, yes?
To be even more specific, keep the basic shape of the current treatment. Lower the top of the bumper about 1/4th, 1/3rd of what it is now. Maybe angle that line more toward the bottom fo the heart. Fill the space with a set of single, square(ish) lamps. See how that works.

And don't just play around with the front end. We're talking about a whole car here

streetfame · #36 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by junglejustice

WOW! I love it!

Can we try out dumping the black section on the hood and grafting in a flat(er) Milano hood with the GTV6 style bulge...? She's looking a bit bloaty.

Jes - two articles on those guys - they were talking about a second car in fact, but I think that it was just the red one repainted...

streetfame · #37 (**permalink**) 10-10-2009, 11:52 PM

Time to start looking deeper.

I took into consideration all the great feedback and mixed it with a couple concepts of my own. I reverted back to rectangular-ish lamps but raised the bar and modernized them more. Take a close look at this latest draft as there are A LOT of small details.

Here are the highlights:

Lamps are reverted horizontally and the end pick-up points are fully matched to the new lines that I decided to keep parallel across the front for simplicity.

Within the lamps outer edges and across the top in the thin bright white space are modern day driving lights. No not Audi's specs. Just a thin constant 45 degree bend lamp. Inside and next to those are HID lamps with the largest ones as high beams. The front and side turn signals are indicated with a thin amber diagonal strips (both front and fender ones available on this model..

) that also wrap around onto the fenders. Then to tie in everything, the lamp's frame introduce a the frenched-in look to mimic the air dam.

The Zagato Jr clear section remains centrally in front with those 10 cool detail inserts. All this (along with the lamps have been angle repeated to mimic the new lower front air dam and bumper.

Lastly, I got rid of mirrors and the blacked out hood and slotted in a stretched GTV6 bulge and angled it up (but not in line with the lamps inner edges or and air dam's diagonal line as I didn't feel it was necessary).

This is where we're at. Now, man-up, tear it apart and tell me where we're still failing or missing the mark.

streetfame

streetfame · #38 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 12:04 AM

Here's the same draft. But with a straight inner headlamp.

streetfame

streetfame · #39 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 12:27 AM

Don't be upset, Jes. But I wanted to see your bumpers pushed in (from another angle) on the track!

Looks good!

streetfame

junglejustice · #40 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 08:28 AM

Wow - even that change makes my and Jes' cars look great!

That looks good on the red car now - I like the slanted inner-line on the headlights better - matches the slope of the openings below it! I know it's Halloween and all, but can you remove the Spider (of the arachnid-variety) from the roof-top of the red car please?

**dscottj** · #41 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 09:07 AM

It's definitely progressing, and I think the slanted version is the best so far. Those tiny right-angle corners at the extreme upper right and left need to go though, they break up the otherwise consistent angle line. Not sure if it's supposed to be there or is just an artifact of the original car not yet removed.

I'm thinking what's holding it back now is the signature grille. An experiment with a body color border, which touches both the hood and the bottom of the spoiler, may be easy and interesting. Adding some crossbars will likely make it less evocative of an Edsel

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On the "not so easy" side, I'm thinking maybe trying a treatment that evokes the Montreal may be interesting to see. You'll get your round headlights back, and perhaps use the "everyone liked 'em but nobody ever used 'em again" slatted headlight covers to reference the angular shapes which dominate the car's original styling. As with the Spider, it's a narrow car, so figuring out ways to visually widen it may prove worthwhile.

I still think the dividing line is too high, but that may just be my tastes. The giant bottom openings may be practical, but IMO they're not particularly pretty. An experiment which rakes the bottom inward, a-la a gen-1 RX-7, may make for something fun to look at. Also anything which curves (or angles) the bottom half inward may be of interest, as the current treatment comes off as a simple rectangle. IMO, of course

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As for the rest of the car, I'm thinking shaving the rear door handles and otherwise visually hiding the second set of doors may make more sense than doing away with them all together. I'm thinking how the 156 handled it, but (of course) with angles instead of curves. Deleting the rain channels and the panels which cover them, combined with flushing the glass, may make a big difference in modernizing the look.

**Berlinista** · #42 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 12:02 PM

Somebody find a picture of Bob van der Sluis' matte black IMSA copy 'Darth Vader' 75......

**Berlinista** · #43 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 12:22 PM

here it is...

sh0rtlife · #44 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 03:04 PM

yes no no nono no yes may no no no

gimmy some rest here ive gone 3300 miles + an extra 100 just for you street...

let me attack the nose since thats where your at and it hit me

she needs DUAL square headlights side by side to start with..and a modified gtv6 hood wide hips

spiderrey · #45 (**permalink**) 10-11-2009, 05:15 PM

I dunno. Im not really diggin that front end. Too busy for mt tastes. I think it actually looked better with the round lights. But maybe the four rectangular lights that were suggested might work.