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Nice car! Manly color.

Hard to believe a recharge is all the A/C needed seeing as they were R12 when built & not known for keeping the ice in your latte' from melting! R134 is even less cool.

My last Gold had the same interior. Which is tougher than you'd think but this putty color gets dirty easily. Looks nice when clean though. Front seats have power recline if I recall.

With the 14" wheels and tall sidewalls, you should have a nice ride quality. Mine came with Platinum 15" Wineglass Wheels. Illinois roads made short work of them (plus cleaning them was punishment). So I eventually went with 164 steel wheels and Verde look alike hub caps with BFG 205/50-15 rubber.

I actually have those little 14's on my GTV6 - which were for Winter driving. They look pretty good. Actually all phone dials (Ronal A1, OZ, etc) look "right" on these cars.

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Jeff, it's definitely great to not have the sunroof. I drove a non-sunroof Gold (different car from yours) before I bought the Verde and the difference in headroom (especially in the back seat) is huge. I'm only 5'11" and have to scrunch down to fit in the back seat of my car -- not so in one without a sunroof.
Not to mention they weigh a ton. Fortunately our 1989 3 litre project car doesn't have one.

Your car looks nice captruff. I like that colour.

Speaking of seats, my son and I recently finished fitting a set of 2004 GT leather front seats to our project car, along with a beautifully re-covered rear seat we got from a friend. Fitting the front ones was a major problem solving exercise involving removing the original mounts from the floor and removing the console and fitting an Alfetta handbrake lever among other things. They transform the comfort and driving position of the car as well as the appearance. We will even be able to hook up the seat heaters that those seats come with. We also fitted a new set of moulded carpets from a firm in Melbourne. I don't know what the US models are like but the carpets in the Australian ones are absolute rubbish and go threadbare very quickly.
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2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
!989 75 3 litre (black). Shared project with my son.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.

Past Alfas
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).

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Not to mention they weigh a ton. Fortunately our 1989 3 litre project car doesn't have one.
Fortunately, I'm not a good enough driver that I can notice a 50 lb difference! Plus I should probably lose some weight myself before I start messing with the car much.

Those are really comfortable and supportive looking seats! My only concern is that they're a little too modern for the car. Mine came with the factory Recaros that are in pretty good shape for their age. A little wear on the bottoms but no rips or tears.

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I think they improve the appearance of the interior of the car and match the dash colour well. We didn't get the Recaro seats in Australia and they are very expensive to import if you can find any that are not threadbare. I had to give up using a 75 as a daily driver because the original seats and the angle of my feet on the pedals caused me back problems. That's why I bought the GT. The seats in those are the most supportive and comfortable I have ever sat in and are height adjustable as well as for backrest angle. This car is not intended to be original. My son and I are trying out ideas for modifying a 75. We got it very cheap from our Alfa mechanic. He has serviced it since it was sold new by the dealer he worked for at the time. My son's 75 3 litre, which was my first 75, is being kept as original because it is in excellent condition.

Current Alfas
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
!989 75 3 litre (black). Shared project with my son.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.

Past Alfas
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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Sounds like a great project! Good luck!
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So I put the car back on the rack today to try and patch the small exhaust leak in the pipe just before the slip over connection to the rear muffler which happens to be a newer Ansa, but I discovered a complete failure of the factory center resonator. Good thing I pulled the trigger on a header back CSC Marmitte system yesterday. I will not be driving the car until the new system is installed. Before installing the headers I will have them ceramic coated black. This upgrade probably would have eventually happened, but this is sooner than expected for sure.

This was the exhaust leak I saw over the weekend.



This is the new exhaust leak discovered today.





Per the records that came with the car, the Ansa rear muffler was installed at 231,876 miles so it has less than 7k miles



Cleaning of the undercarriage continued for another 2 hours until I lost motivation.





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Never had an Ansa muffler last very long on any of my Alfas. Never use them now.

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89 Milano (wife's daily driver since 1989, Shankle Sport)
91 164S (my daily driver since 1994)
94 164LS (~Q) (trip Alfa since 2000)
72 Morgan 27 (water time since 1976)

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62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6
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I figured my wallet had a slight set back from some of the deferred maintenance the car has had over the years so today I thought I would do a low cost fix.

The door lock button markers were badly faded so I figured they could be fixed with some red vinyl. see pictures

before



measured and cut the new vinyl





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Very easy and quick.

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Well done!

Current Alfas
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
!989 75 3 litre (black). Shared project with my son.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.

Past Alfas
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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Nice car!
I also like the color of car @captruff
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update..

I was prepping my Mercedes for Legends of the Autobahn in August and then took a general break from cars in September, but I finally got around to installing the CSC Header system on the Milano. Originally planned to have the headers ceramic coated black, but decided to go with a ceramic coating called Turbine which is a Titanium color. CSC does not provide a gasket from the header to the DP flange so I decided to make my own, see pictures. Additionally, I took the opportunity to replace the rear tail lights, rear trunk reflector, front fogs, front lights, corners, and emblems. Lastly, I fitted a late model grille which I like, but I also plan to refurbish the original.

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I have my 15" phone dial wheels at the re finisher. Last week or so I noticed that Toyo released the new R888R tires in 195/55/15, so this is an easy decision. Treadwear is only 100, but this is a weekend car at best.





Toyo Proxes R888R

Unfortunately, since the last time the car was run, sometime in May, until the time I started the car with the new exhaust yesterday, the car seems to be running on 4 cylinders. I think I have another 1 or 2 bad injectors. I realize there are rebuilt injectors available, but I'm irritated and might just pull the trigger on new injectors. That said, is there a preference of Bosch vs Denso vs?? Open for suggestions here as I need to fix this running issue ASAP!

Next up will be refinished valve covers and intake plenum to clean up engine bay






Thanks,

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I recommend getting injectors rebuilt. I did that for our 75 and it runs beautifully. One injector had to be replaced with a new one because it was stuffed, but the rest came up perfect.

Current Alfas
2004 GT 3.2 V6 (Stromboli Grey).
2008 159 TI Sportwagon 2.4 JTDM (Stromboli Grey).
1987 75 3 litre (red). My first 75 and now my son's.
!989 75 3 litre (black). Shared project with my son.
2000 156 2 litre Twin Spark, ( Cosmos Blu metallic), my daughter's car.

Past Alfas
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (black), now sold & living in Newcastle NSW.
1990 75 3 litre Potenziata (grey, sadly deceased due to fire).
1982 GTV 2 litre, red, (daughter's first Alfa)
2 x 1992 164s, (1 red, 1 grey).
2 x 1988 33s, (both red).
1985 GTV 2 litre, (white).
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Beautiful work Jeff. Nice to see some loving on a non Verde model. How bad were your Benzoni wheels before refinish? I have a set but all four have bends in inner, outer or both barrels.

Are you in Socal? I think you are. I am relocating to San Jose. I would be interested to learn where you had your wheels done.

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Beautiful work Jeff. Nice to see some loving on a non Verde model. How bad were your Benzoni wheels before refinish? I have a set but all four have bends in inner, outer or both barrels.

Are you in Socal? I think you are. I am relocating to San Jose. I would be interested to learn where you had your wheels done.

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I just realized the pictures I posted are my Speedline phone dial wheels and yes I have another set of Benzoni phone dials because I prefer the more aggressive offset. I had 5 Benzonis, but one was bent beyond repair. I use Dave at Renewed Finishes for my work

Renewed Finishes - About Us     Renewed Finishes is a small but steadily growing custom powder coating and metal polishing shop located in northeastern Pennsylvania. As we continue to grow our focus is providing quality workmanship in a timely manner

Shipping coast to coast is expensive, but Dave's work is some of the best I have ever seen.

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For your questionable injectors, do you pour in some Techron now and then? I've used that stuff once in a while in all three of the Alfas, and others before as well, and have never had an injector problem with any of them, even with close to 200k miles on a couple of them. Examples: the Alfetta sedan had 180k miles on it when sold and the 91S has 182k miles, and both ran/run so smoothly. Our Milano with 110k miles starts easily and runs very well (same for the LS). Stuff works, in my book.

Costco usually has a pretty good deal on a box of the small bottles (just right for the Alfa size gas tanks).

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89 Milano (wife's daily driver since 1989, Shankle Sport)
91 164S (my daily driver since 1994)
94 164LS (~Q) (trip Alfa since 2000)
72 Morgan 27 (water time since 1976)

previously owned since 1964:

62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6

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