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post #16 of 75 (permalink) Old 04-26-2016, 01:10 PM Thread Starter
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Update on my 1987 Milano Gold

Keep in mind my car had been sitting since 2007 having only been started once in 2010.

After I drained the tank and replaced both the battery and fuel pump I had a running car. It was running a little rough and down on power so I had the car sent to Alfa Performance Connection in Orange. I basically asked Stuart Jr to go through the entire car from a mechanical perspective so I would have a decent runner. Cosmetics and suspension upgrades will have to wait.


For the engine we did a new timing belt and tensioner, new water pump, valve adjustment of intake and exhaust, replaced drive belts, replaced 2 bad injectors, and re torqued the heads. The drive line got a new rear mount, new trans fluid, and new shifter bushing.

A/C was serviced so it is now functioning. I will need to see if the system holds over time.

We also did new brake fluid, lines, and front and rear pads.

I will be replacing plugs, cap + rotor, coil, and plugs over the weekend.

I will be upgrading to the 15" Verde phone dial wheels with the Dunlop Direzza ZII size 195/55/15 as soon as I get the wheels back from my refinisher.

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I will be interested at some date to know how those tires work out for you, as I was looking at them as well for our Milano with the Verde wheels. The 15 inch Michelin Exalto PE2 we have now on the car are no longer available. We were running the 205/55-15 size. Too bad, as we really liked them.

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How did you diagnose the injectors and where did you source new ones?

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How did you diagnose the injectors and where did you source new ones?
The car was really down on power and the exhaust note was not what is should be so I took the car to an Alfa specialist, Alfa Performance Center in Orange. The ignition timing was retarded and I was told 2 of the injectors were stuck closed. I purchased 2 used injectors in addition to the other work to get the car running as it should.

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Another update. I was able to drive the car all last week without breaking down, but I did run out of gas since the fuel gauge is pretty inaccurate.




I was able to start detailing the car over the weekend by pressure washing the wheel wells and undercarriage which is very dirty.








New car cover and NOS hood pad for the car arrived by UPS. My dog Kuro is getting better at riding in the back seat even though it lacks the space of his W124 E320 station wagon.







Unfortunately, when the car was on the lift I did see an exhaust leak issue with the exhaust pipe aft of the center resonator, but ahead of the rear can slip over. The previous owner replaced the catalyst and it is welded to the center resonator. I believe this should have been flanged or a slip over joint from the factory. So I might visit a muffler shop to see what type of band aid fix they can do to buy me some time 12/18 months while I save to purchase a new exhaust manifold back system or even perhaps headers too.



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Very nice...I really like how this is turning out. I wish that I could detail my wheel wells and find nice, shiny Bilsteins :-)

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Be sure to use a pad for the dog, as the Milano fabric is fragile and wears quickly.

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Captruff, nice to see the car is working out! I admit, I chickened out on that one after corresponding with the seller but it looks like it may have been a decent deal after all. Congrats!

Where did you find the hood pad and car cover? Both look great!

My Alfa is at APC currently getting some of the same work you had done there... timing belt, water pump, etc. Stuart Jr is giving my car a general look over too, since it's new to me. Suspect he'll find a few more "while we're in there" type items to add to the list. Like you, I just want to get off to a good starting point to start putting some miles on.

Haven't put our golden retriever in the back yet, but soon!
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The Magnaflow cat is very nice, great deal for the price. Most (not all) headers provide no measurable hp gain on the Milano.

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Out of curiosity, how did you go about draining the fuel tank?

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Be sure to use a pad for the dog, as the Milano fabric is fragile and wears quickly.
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If you look closely you can see I do have a rear seat cover; it is from a BMW E39, but seems to fit fine and should protect the seats.

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Captruff, nice to see the car is working out! I admit, I chickened out on that one after corresponding with the seller but it looks like it may have been a decent deal after all. Congrats!

Rory:

I actually went to see and drive the Verde you purchased which is a nice example and I made the seller an offer on the spot, but he wanted to let the Ebay auction run it course. I would have preferred a 3L engine, but I also wanted a non sunroof car. I figure swapping an engine is probably less work than deleting a sunroof considering my skill set and connections. My car like your Verde had extensive service records from the prior owner, but my car still had considerable deferred maintenance and some cosmetic challenges which will be addressed in time. I have already spent close to 4 times the purchase price getting the car sorted; I mentally prepared myself prior to the purchase.

Where did you find the hood pad and car cover? Both look great!

The hood pad was purchased from Vick's Auto, but they only had one left. The car cover is a black satin stretch indoor cover made by Cover King and purchased online at Auto Anything.

My Alfa is at APC currently getting some of the same work you had done there... timing belt, water pump, etc. Stuart Jr is giving my car a general look over too, since it's new to me. Suspect he'll find a few more "while we're in there" type items to add to the list. Like you, I just want to get off to a good starting point to start putting some miles on.

Haven't put our golden retriever in the back yet, but soon!
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Out of curiosity, how did you go about draining the fuel tank?
I simply allowed all the fuel to drain from the fuel pump feed line when changing the fuel pump. The tank might not have been 100% drained, but since the fuel was clear and clean I was not too concerned.


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You've got the Milano Gold upholstery, which is actually amazingly durable. I mean, I don't know if it'll stand up to Acts of Dog, but my Milano seats looked d-mn near new even after nearly 30 years.

The Verde statin-y fabric is the stuff that wears terribly.

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Jeff, it's definitely great to not have the sunroof. I drove a non-sunroof Gold (different car from yours) before I bought the Verde and the difference in headroom (especially in the back seat) is huge. I'm only 5'11" and have to scrunch down to fit in the back seat of my car -- not so in one without a sunroof.

Plus all the hassles a sunroof entails... mine came to me with a door stop and a folded up magazine stuffed into the works to keep it from rattling.

Good to hear your car had a stack of records too. That was one thing that I couldn't figure out from corresponding with the owner. I think we were having communication difficulties for some reason.

Might be fun to meet up at a local Cars and Coffee once both of our cars are ready to go!
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"You've got the Milano Gold upholstery, which is actually amazingly durable"

Our 89 Gold came with the Silver seats/interior, although with some Gold equipment features and the Verde rear spoiler. Whatever was left on the assembly line shelves I guess.

The Silver fabric wears if you just look at it. My wife wore a hole in the driver's seat almost immediately from having a wallet in her pants rear pocket. Had to buy more matching fabric from ReOriginals (?) to fix it some day. Really disappointing. Now running with seat covers. The rest of te car is pristine, not even any door nicks at all.

Hmmm, I have spare pristine LS interior/seats. I wonder if one seat will fit in for the driver. Will have to check.

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72 Morgan 27 (water time since 1976)

previously owned since 1964:

62 Morris MiniMinor 850, 67 Austin 1275 Cooper S (Downton 3/4 race), 64 Giulia Sprint GT (1st red one made), 72 Fiat 128 Sedan, 75 Alfetta Sedan, 78 Alfetta Sedan, 78 GTV, 81 GTV6, 86 GTV6
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Jeff, it's definitely great to not have the sunroof. I drove a non-sunroof Gold (different car from yours) before I bought the Verde and the difference in headroom (especially in the back seat) is huge. I'm only 5'11" and have to scrunch down to fit in the back seat of my car -- not so in one without a sunroof.

Plus all the hassles a sunroof entails... mine came to me with a door stop and a folded up magazine stuffed into the works to keep it from rattling.

Good to hear your car had a stack of records too. That was one thing that I couldn't figure out from corresponding with the owner. I think we were having communication difficulties for some reason.

Might be fun to meet up at a local Cars and Coffee once both of our cars are ready to go!
Rory:

I saw the door stop too, and that stopped me from even trying to check for functionality.

When you get your car back from APC let me know and we can meet up. I'm not really big on Cars and Coffee so perhaps we can find an alternate meeting place.

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