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Old 11-23-2007, 11:34 AM
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Quite simple really. If the seller has the documentation, people who are serious prospective buyers will have seen it. The obscure alfa world being a small one, the details of the available documentation would soon be in the open. This not being the case, one is pushed to believe there is NO documentation available.
As soon as this documentation DOES become available, it will be a wholly different ball game.
No docs? Not an interesting car. Good docs? Seller might earn serious money.
Simple as that.
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Old 11-23-2007, 02:44 PM
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Thanks for your information! So, that leaves us with a car with an unclear history.

Incroyable ! who say that the history is unclear? because i didn t see the documentation don t means that the history is unclear, i didn t see you and never saw your passport which means in your logic that you are unclear !
strange logic...i give up
Yes the history is unclear because so far no one has shown any. It may very well have documentation somewhere but so far it has not turned up. To use your logic statement if I show up to your country and get to customs, they will ask for my passport and if I have none my nationality is unclear to customs right? If I say I'm from somewhere but cannot show the proper documents do you think customs will just believe me? I don't think so.
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Yes the history is unclear because so far no one has shown any. It may very well have documentation somewhere but so far it has not turned up. To use your logic statement if I show up to your country and get to customs, they will ask for my passport and if I have none my nationality is unclear to customs right? If I say I'm from somewhere but cannot show the proper documents do you think customs will just believe me? I don't think so.
I guess you don't remember Olczyk ACTUALLY SAID he WAS God right on this BB!!!!
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Old 11-23-2007, 09:38 PM
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Yeah I think I missed most of that. I've only been on the bb since mid 06. I'm catching on pretty fast though
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Hi guys,
I'm trying to remember. A former Friend of mine, Mr. Schumacher, from Bad Neuenahr, Germany, bought in the early 90th, 27 Alfa Romeos, 101, 102 and 106 Series and tons of spareparts, in Southafrica. He mentioned to me several TZ-1, but one with plastic Body. I'm 95% shure, that it was #004. Maybe it's the same car, but he never spoke about a TZ-2 Body. Hope this helps a little bit.

It's the second time, that I see, that hansgta, is with very 'simpleminded' questions, trying, to direct the forum, to the conclusion, that the car is real and if we don't confirm this, he is going to be agressive and never answer a single question, so I come to the conclusion, "that's our lost Messiah"!!!

I made a statement about the Tipo 33 collection, from Peter Kauss. I said, that Erwin Derichs, in Mayen, Germany, built some of these, from parts, for Mr. Kauss. For some of these cars, were never mentioned a chassisnumber and there are no records, same with TZ-2 #117 and now, someone, is assuming, the original numbers, to sell this cars. I went personally, at that time to Mayen, cause I like the T 33. hansgta made directly his statements, but like he himself mentioned, you have to see this cars and I did.

Maybe we are in your eyes, only 'tirekickers', but why do you use, different forums, to confirm with realy simple questions your point of view? Asking for pictures, opinions and later you write a book about others research, under your name.
Interesting way to earn money, but try to grow.
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Pictures of the TZ-1/TZ-2 with lack of history (no connection with the seller!!)

Hello Forum,

I came across these pictures of the TZ-1/TZ-2 that we discussed earlier and concluded that the history is unclear. Have a look at the following website: ALFA ROMEO TZ 2

I didn't receive further information from hansgta or another source that changed my opinion on this car! And mind you; I have no connection with the seller!

Ciao, Olaf
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And more pictures of this TZ-1/TZ-2 (no connection to the seller!)

And more pictures of the car. Remember; no connection to the seller.

Ciao, Olaf
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Thanks for posting those photo's, I wouldn't dare comment on the originality question etc but whatever it is its a lovely car.
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Rumor goes that Mr. O. has acquired a/the 1600 GTA from Austria - from the same guy who is selling spares at ebay at this very moment. I believe a lot of GTA experts on this forum, will know which car I am talking about, I don't - haven't seen the car.

The GTA apparently - again as 'rumour' goes - is/was a tired and bad example on which most 'experts' have passed. However not Mr O. Because...some people..say he knows more or will come up with an interesting history!?

Lets see what will happen...

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Old 03-24-2008, 01:40 PM
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TZ1's & 2's

Sorry but they are ALL fakes, or was that real, oh thats right just the one I am selling, the prototype TZ2 - yours for megabucks, with the complete history from new, and I would give you the history but you wouldnt possibly understand

Anyway back to the show, great photos etc., keep it coming and hope you all had a happy easter.
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