The complete SVZ file

[dretceterini]

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Originally Posted by 2000 touring sp Sorry , but I am certain that you are out of line, and has miss interpreted the picture. Conrero used this cover on his prepared engines. And this one don't look diff from other pictures I have seen of Conrero Giulietta engines. Another thing, does anybody know this book. Alfa Romeo Giulietta SV-SVZ-SS-SZ Autor: Donald Hughes e Vito Witting da Prato Publicat de: Giorgio Nada Published by, Milano Anul: 1990

[2000 touring sp]

I am sorry Stu, but you have to be more specific in you comments.
The pictures I posted is from Auto Italia June 2004 including the picture of the engine, I suppose its that English Magazine you refer to.
In the article there is no reference to engine number, but neither any statement of an "fake" engine.
It is given that the engine job was done by Riccardo Michi employed by Conrero and the output was 130 HP. Conrero probably used all his experience from the Formel 1 engine he had produced on the Giulietta parts.
Chassis 4718 got this new body and engine in 1961, late in connection with the SVZ in general. And the body had a weight of 750KG
It had its debut in the Coppa Ascari 6 hours race at Monza in 1961, and outclassed all the SVZ and the Official Alfa Romeo SZ with Sanesi at the wheel, until it had gearbox problems and ended in 7 place.

In many ways this is a interesting car, first of all it is Build at Carrozzeria Michelotti, not many cars was build at Carrozzeria Mischelitti. He designed more than 1200 cars, and I think he is the most successful Italian designer regarding the number of designs he was able to get on the road.
But it is also interesting in relation to Conrero.
We know at this time, 1961, that Alfa Romeo is going to official re-enter to racing activities in connection with the new 1600 ccm. range, the Giulia. Zagato began working on the new chassis for the car, probably, back in 1959, with the Chassis 105.10. I am thinking of the TZ
se tread Mystery Giulietta

Luraghi had taken the seat as General Manager, the plans for the new factory the Arese Plant was released in 1960.
In that atmosphere of regained self confidence by Alfa Romeo, there was the question whom should run the new Alfa Romeo Razing Team.
I am of the opinion that Conrero did expect him selves as the obvious choice for the job. He had close relations to Alfa Romeo since the introduction of the 1900, and had more or less been the official tuner of the Giuliatta.
So I think that Conrero used this "Goccia" (Goccia means teardrop) to promote him selves in connection with the new racing activity from Alfa Romeo.
It is clear that after the Racing Activity was given to Autodelta, Conrero turned away from Alfa Romeo toward Simca and Renault in France, and later to Opel in Germany

Its a lot of assumptions, but I don't think far away from reality

[dretceterini]

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Originally Posted by 2000 touring sp I am sorry Stu, but you have to be more specific in you comments. The pictures I posted is from Auto Italia June 2004 including the picture of the engine, I suppose its that English Magazine you refer to. In the article there is no reference to engine number, but neither any statement of an "fake" engine. It is given that the engine job was done by Riccardo Michi employed by Conrero and the output was 130 HP. Conrero probably used all his experience from the Formel 1 engine he had produced on the Giulietta parts. Chassis 4718 got this new body and engine in 1961, late in connection with the SVZ in general. And the body had a weight of 750KG It had its debut in the Coppa Ascari 6 hours race at Monza in 1961, and outclassed all the SVZ and the Official Alfa Romeo SZ with Sanesi at the wheel, until it had gearbox problems and ended in 7 place. In many ways this is a interesting car, first of all it is Build at Carrozzeria Michelotti, not many cars was build at Carrozzeria Mischelitti. He designed more than 1200 cars, and I think he is the most successful Italian designer regarding the number of designs he was able to get on the road. But it is also interesting in relation to Conrero. We know at this time, 1961, that Alfa Romeo is going to official re-enter to racing activities in connection with the new 1600 ccm. range, the Giulia. Zagato began working on the new chassis for the car, probably, back in 1959, with the Chassis 105.10. I am thinking of the TZ se tread Mystery Giulietta Luraghi had taken the seat as General Manager, the plans for the new factory the Arese Plant was released in 1960. In that atmosphere of regained self confidence by Alfa Romeo, there was the question whom should run the new Alfa Romeo Razing Team. I am of the opinion that Conrero did expect him selves as the obvious choice for the job. He had close relations to Alfa Romeo since the introduction of the 1900, and had more or less been the official tuner of the Giuliatta. So I think that Conrero used this "Goccia" (Goccia means teardrop) to promote him selves in connection with the new racing activity from Alfa Romeo. It is clear that after the Racing Activity was given to Autodelta, Conrero turned away from Alfa Romeo toward Simca and Renault in France, and later to Opel in Germany Its a lot of assumptions, but I don't think far away from reality

[Ti Sup]

Hello all,

yestarday in Rétromobile in paris, I have buyed a new book about Giulietta's called "La Targa Florio della Giulietta".

Very nice book with many many pictures and informations about Giulietta SVZ.

Price : 59 €.

[gtv2000]

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Originally Posted by martinue Re SVZ ex Berney At the Monza race 19580907 Berney’s SVZ had its original Alfa heart slightly higher placed than No. 12 in the 1959 Spa race. Its wipers point at the driver’s side, No. 12 one’s are at the passenger’s side. I have two photos of the 1959 Nürburgring 1000 kms five weeks after the Spa event. This time the heart is missing, but in one photo it has only one wiper mounted which points at the driver’s side again (in the other photo it had none).

[mubezzi]

Where might I pick-up that model of car #36. I am also looking for #63 from 1960.

[2000 touring sp]

I came by this picture of #1944. Don't know where and when. But can it be the Sestrieres rally.

[acalvi]

It's in Sestriere

[dretceterini]

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Originally Posted by 2000 touring sp I came by this picture of #1944. Don't know where and when. But can it be the Sestrieres rally.

[George J]

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Originally Posted by 2000 touring sp Sorry , but I am certain that you are out of line, and has miss interpreted the picture. Conrero used this cover on his prepared engines. And this one don't look diff from other pictures I have seen of Conrero Giulietta engines. Another thing, does anybody know this book. Alfa Romeo Giulietta SV-SVZ-SS-SZ Autor: Donald Hughes e Vito Witting da Prato Publicat de: Giorgio Nada Published by, Milano Anul: 1990

[2000 touring sp]

My excuse George J, just to tease you, I think there is a diff to a race
prepared Goccia from 1961 and to you SZ. Stating that without having the
slightest knowledge to you SZ.
But it is generally stated by diff sources,that the Goccia outclassed the SZ
on that day,until it got problems with the gear box.
And in general,we do have a problem,we wasnt there.And we have to relay to
the written info that is available. Some sources has diff. statements in
diff media.
My source is Auto Italia June 2004, as stated previsly. To my knowledge its
a a serius magasine and generaly akknowledg as souch.

[gtv2000]

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Originally Posted by George J By the way; no way did Goccia ever do 272 kph. My car (with 1.5L) is running out of steam a little over 7100 rpm and 210kph and a standard rear end. Cheers, George

[George J]

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Originally Posted by 2000 touring sp My excuse George J, just to tease you, I think there is a diff to a race prepared Goccia from 1961 and to you SZ. Stating that without having the slightest knowledge to you SZ. But it is generally stated by diff sources,that the Goccia outclassed the SZ on that day,until it got problems with the gear box. And in general,we do have a problem,we wasnt there.And we have to relay to the written info that is available. Some sources has diff. statements in diff media. My source is Auto Italia June 2004, as stated previsly. To my knowledge its a a serius magasine and generaly akknowledg as souch.

[AR58SprintV]

Re: Tach & speedo
LOVE that last photo George!
I remember that car in Bridgeport a few autumns ago, no wonder you loose clutch springs!
Cheers, Laurence