Chassis Numbers for 6C 1750 and 1500

[bell904]

Hi,
I am a new member and interested in the history of prewar 1750 and
1500s and have the following questions:
1.Does any one know whether there is a database for Chassis numbers?
2.Does the factory answers questions with regard to specific Chassis numbers?

Thank you for your kind reply
bell 904

[tubut]

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Originally Posted by bell904 Hi, I am a new member and interested in the history of prewar 1750 and 1500s and have the following questions: 1.Does any one know whether there is a database for Chassis numbers? 2.Does the factory answers questions with regard to specific Chassis numbers? Thank you for your kind reply bell 904

[bell904]

Thank you so much for your help.

[tubut]

There is also a book from 1989 or 1990 by Angela Cherrett called "Alfa Romeo Tipo 6C: 1500, 1750, 1900" (Foulis Motoring Book) that you may find somewhere. However, I understand the book has many photos but no chassis numbers.

I understand Angela Cherrett is/was the registrar of the Alfa Romeo section of the VSSC in the UK (http://www.vscc.co.uk). Maybe you can contact them via this page and see if you can get in touch with her.

[Cris Bertschi]

There is no 1750 Register AFAIK, but we can start sharing info here.
My experience with the Archivio Storico is that they send info on post war cars, but it is very difficult to get from prewars. They are always very helpful.
Regards.
Cris.-

[Alleggerita]

Luigi Fusi & Roy Slater's 1968 6C1750 Alfa Romeo (out of print) has a list of "Existing Cars" which shows primarily at the time English registered serial #, engine #, body builder, body type, last known owner (in 1968), location and British reg. #. There is also additional info & history available on some specific cars. BTW, usually engine serial # are usually identical to chassis # and are found on the crankcase rather than the actual block

[dretceterini]

Unfortunately, there is no active Alfa pre-war register (other than the cars covered by the 6c2500 register)....

[Zagato_Olaf]

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Originally Posted by tubut There is also a book from 1989 or 1990 by Angela Cherrett called "Alfa Romeo Tipo 6C: 1500, 1750, 1900" (Foulis Motoring Book) that you may find somewhere. However, I understand the book has many photos but no chassis numbers. I understand Angela Cherrett is/was the registrar of the Alfa Romeo section of the VSSC in the UK (http://www.vscc.co.uk). Maybe you can contact them via this page and see if you can get in touch with her.

[6c1750ss]

A convenient ,if time consuming, way of researching chassis numbers is to enter the actual number together with the word 'Alfa 'into a Google search.I've not done this on any systematic basis but sometimes it has worked when looking up a specific number ,usually if the car has been through the Auctions or if there is some well known race history.It's very hit or miss but it's better than the alternative which is basically nothing.

[iicarJohn]

Um ... Er ... How do I say this ....

I keep a registry of Alfa Romeo 6C cars! I published a reasonable listing in 1994 in the (unfortunately "latest" published) edition of The Italian Car Registry. Perhaps I should scan those pages and post them here somewhere?

Angela Cherrett keeps a listing as well. One day, I hope that we might combine resources. There probably are others who keep their own private lists.

Generally, my studies and list-sharing work like this. It all started as an informal information exchange and that is what I continue to try to do. If you own (or owned) an interesting low-production Italian car (not just AR6C) and share the information that you have learned as a result of that ownership, then I will share a portion of my listing that covers that car and probably some other cars similar to it. If you do not own a car, but share information that you have come across, I will also probably share a listing with you. It might not be the same listing that I might edit for an owner as I might get the impression that your interests are a bit different. If you have shared information about a number of other cars, not necessarily just AR6C in this case, then you might feel perfectly free to ask about one anyway and I might just agree. I try not to take all of this study too seriously. A lot can be learned gathering information a piece at a time ... with patience. It is most important that we find a way to share. I have shared the entire listing of collected data on AR6C 1500/1750 cars (more than 500 cars identified to some degree by chassis number ... which is not to say that they all exist) with only a couple of trusted insiders. You can certainly get part of it if you share but it will take a long time and a lot of shared data before I will be sure that we are on the same page as far as our concepts of what makes "history" and what kind of data is a bit "sensitive" and should be withheld (at times) from publication or general sharing out of a sense of privacy or because the information may be easily abused.

Attached is a form that I share with AR6C owners that tells what kind of numerical data I seek when looking in depth at one of these cars. The form is a work in progress and also applies generally to the earliest 6C2300 ("7th series 6C") cars as well as some Alfa Romeo cars built even before the AR6C1500. Not all numbers can be found on all cars. Eventually, with enough input, this data will help describe how the cars and parts were produced. The data collected already gives us an idea of the nature of the mechanical originality (or lack thereof) of some cars that exist today. It does not always tell us all that we would like, however! There is more to a car than a bunch of numbers on various components. There are similar forms available for 6C2300 and 6C2500 cars as well.

Best regards,

John de Boer

[dretceterini]

What ever happened with Anderloni's (from Touring coachbuilders) attempt to start a pre-war Alfa registery?

[iicarJohn]

Perhaps I should have mentioned that my data collection, although far from complete, includes some information on almost 100 Alfa Romeo 6C1500, more than 400 Alfa Romeo 6C1750 and 21 Alfa Romeo 6C1900 ... plus some engines no longer with cars or fitted to cars other than "original". All listed by chassis number and with varying amounts of historical data or leads to more that can be collected. Unidentifed leads? Many. Very many.

John de Boer
The Italian Car Registry

[Il Vecchio]

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Originally Posted by iicarJohn Perhaps I should have mentioned that my data collection, although far from complete, includes some information on almost 100 Alfa Romeo 6C1500, more than 400 Alfa Romeo 6C1750 and 21 Alfa Romeo 6C1900 ... plus some engines no longer with cars or fitted to cars other than "original". All listed by chassis number and with varying amounts of historical data or leads to more that can be collected. Unidentifed leads? Many. Very many. John de Boer The Italian Car Registry

[damien duigan]

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Originally Posted by Alleggerita Luigi Fusi & Roy Slater's 1968 6C1750 Alfa Romeo (out of print) has a list of "Existing Cars" which shows primarily at the time English registered serial #, engine #, body builder, body type, last known owner (in 1968), location and British reg. #. There is also additional info & history available on some specific cars. BTW, usually engine serial # are usually identical to chassis # and are found on the crankcase rather than the actual block

[Zagato_Olaf]

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Originally Posted by damien duigan For those of us born too late to buy a copy of this book when new, is anyone able to scan the list from the Slater/Fusi book? I for one would be very appreciative - having recently purchased an almost complete run of English Motor Sport magazines dating back to 1931 I have come across many, many references to English registered 6Cs but would really appreciate a list to help identify cars by serial number. Most of these ads have been referenced by licence plate only so far. Regards, Damien