Raduno 6C2500/6C2300 Antwerp (Belgium)

[AlfaRonny]

Some of my pictures from the raduno on Italiaspeed:

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2007/even...1/gallery.html

[Il Serpente]

I was at the Raduno on Friday evening. It was a fabulous event. I'm writing an article, but need clarifaction on the Lopresto car. It is in fact entered in the official participants list as a 1939 6C 2500 Sport by Castagna - in fact it has a 6C 2500 badge on the front ... but it has a 2300B Lungo chassis and a V12 engine.

What is the link to the 6C 2500? Can anybody clarify this in one answer?

BTW - thanks Luc. It was a great evening.

[dretceterini]

I don't know the story, and can only speculate as to what the car is. It appears that a 6c2300B lungo, circa 1936 had one of the 2 cam, 3 liter V-12s of the S10S type installed in the early 1940s, probably because the original motor broke. I have no idea if this conversion was done or authorized by Alfa themselves, or done privately....but if that was the case, I also have no idae how a prototype S10S motor could have been obtained. I too am waithing to hear the full story...

[AR58SprintV]

The S10 (S?) was a special current cutting-edge engine in the Italy of the late 1930's and the 1940's. This was not just laying around.
At this time (in the war) and after having lost the war (twice) Italy was a country where only a powerful AND rich man could have done this intstallation if it wasn't done for the greater glory of Fasicst propaganda or as an intended sales or competition tool. Nobody else could access this engine otherwise untill the economic conditions improved in the mid-late 1950's.
I also await more evidence.
Cheers, Laurence

[dretceterini]

I am using the S10S designation for the twin cam version and the S10SS designation for the 4 cam version of the engine. I have seen these designations used in publications, but I do not know what the OFFICIAL factory designations were. I am not even sure a 4 cam version was ever even built, although drawings do exist. I would tend to think someone rich with connections had the job done, rather than it being a factory conversion from the 6c2300 motor, but I don't know what the facts actually are, and await the articles to come.

[Odin]

Hi guys,
I think it was quite normal in this time, selling some stuff, from the factory. Remember, they sold the 2 Tipo 412, three 8C 2900 B MM Cars, The Whale and lost the famous 38 LM Coupe. Where are most of their GP Cars, like the 316, 312, 158?
Apart of this, the S 10 - 11 were designed by Ricart and Trevisian and the first was not everybodys Darling in Portello.
But in general, thanks for all the nice Pictures. I like the 6C 2300 B MM very much. About 10 Years ago, I drove the Mille Miglia in Argentine in a race prepared Jaguar XK 140 OTS. For about 200 Km I drove behind a black 6C 2300 B MM Coupe from Argentine. The only thing I can tell you, I had to push very hard, to stay behind him. I never believed, that these old Car can go so fast. It was specially race prepared with three Carbs. I urged a Friend of mine, to buy this car, but the Owner wanted 450.000,- USD. I don't no, if the car is still in Argentine, but I still have the Phonenumber of his mecanic.
My other expirience, here in Chile are at last six 6C 2500 SS. Two Freccia d'Oro Series 1 and 2, 3 PF Cabriolets and a Touring Ville d'Este Cabriolet lungo. The lungo and a PF alloy Cabriolet went some years ago back to Europe. I had the chance to drive them all and can only say, they are trucks, no pleasure to drive. Otherwise I think, the Touring bodied cars, are the most beautiful cars made at the late 40th and early 50th.. But it was typical for Alfa, to sell under, or overpowered cars. I imagine the absolute Dreamcar of the 50th., a Villa d'Este Coupe, with an S 10 (Ferrari V12) Engine. What a car.

Greetings
Jörg

[Boudewijn]

Luc Colement, congratulations on your book that I recently received already in the second edition.
It is a very good compilation on anything Freccia d'Oro. In the register I found no information on 916321.
It appeared in the 2004 Mille Miglia Historico with number 193 finishing 167th driven by L.Mazza and G.Salvaggio.
Here are 2 pics of the car: http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris...ore/index.html
Best regards
Boudewijn

[velocedoc]

I stumbled into this thread. I am very late in posting to this, so indulgences please.
The blue 6c2500 Pininfarina with the white side wall tires...anyone know the history of this car? I am wondering if this car came out of Tarzana California? There is also the red 6c2500 Pininfarina car. Is this the Ali Khan car?
I would love to know where my 6c2500SS Touring is now and what state of restoration it is in. Someone in the 6c Register would know of the car I am speaking of.
Those 6c's are fabulous cars not only to look at but a dream to drive. Thank you for sharing the photo's. I will have to come back and look at the links when I have more time.

[Freccia]

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Originally Posted by Boudewijn Luc Colement, congratulations on your book that I recently received already in the second edition. It is a very good compilation on anything Freccia d'Oro. In the register I found no information on 916321. It appeared in the 2004 Mille Miglia Historico with number 193 finishing 167th driven by L.Mazza and G.Salvaggio. Here are 2 pics of the car: http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris...ore/index.html Best regards Boudewijn