Carlos Unknown 6C2500

[dretceterini]

From Wikipedia...although I'm not sure it is correct...

There was no requirement in Europe for headlamps of standardised size or shape. Automakers were free to design their lamps to whatever shapes and sizes they wished, as long as the lamps met the engineering and performance requirements contained in the applicable European safety standards. That design freedom permitted the development of rectangular headlamps, first used in 1961. Developed by Cibié for the Citroën Ami 6 and by Hella for the German Ford Taunus, they were prohibited in the United States where round lamps were required until 1975

[velocedoc]

Maybe we are talking about a modified headlight. It very well could have been a round headlight with square glass over for styling and sculptured metal framing. Didn't the VW prototype/prewar come with covered headlights? They were round with oval shaped class.

[dretceterini]

Well, it's certainly possible that the car with the rumble seat had round headlights with square covers...

[gtv2000]

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Originally Posted by dretceterini Well, it's certainly possible that the car with the rumble seat had round headlights with square covers...

[CarterHendricks]

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Originally Posted by gtv2000 Yep, back to the topic. The first square headlights were issued by Bosch in 1940 and found their way on the Auto Avio Costruzioni Tipo 815.

[dretceterini]

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Originally Posted by CarterHendricks Just to clear up this ambiguity: the many period photos in the Franco Varisco 815 book [The Genesis of the Ferrari] all show round headlamps mounted behind clear creased front covers. At least one photo shows "both" the Rangoni and Ascari 815 cars with practically identical headlamps. This photo is of the two cars competing in the Brescia Grand Prix [MM] April 1940. But there are many more detailed photos of the two cars [especially the Rangoni car] in the book, including beautiful professional photos shot for Touring with particular known period backgrounds. Please: there can be no doubt about the headlights. Now back to Carlo's car... --Carter

[carlo]

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The car was built by a minor Milanese coachbuilder, maybe one named Meteor,

[dretceterini]

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Originally Posted by carlo Indeed it is not easy to find any infos about this little and quite unknown company... This morning it came into my mind where to search And this is a Meteor bodied car.... Source: La Manovella Sept 2000 Interesting to see that this car has headlamps in the style of the Auto-Avio Construzioni 815, round ones hidden under a square opening in the fender. I'm interested in your opinions.... Best regards Ciao Carlo

[litrico]

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Originally Posted by dretceterini There was a coachbuilding company called Meteor, but as far as I am aware, they only did FIATS, and mostly racing cars....and probably less than 10 cars total. I don't think the 6c2500 is by them. There are photos of the Pasquinelli/FIAT/Dagrada 750 bodied by Meteor on pages 133 and 134 of the book La Sport E I Suoi Artigiani 1937-1965 by Curami and Vergnano.....

[dretceterini]

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Originally Posted by litrico I to all, anyone have any photos concerning DAGRADA 750? Thanks Antonio

[litrico]

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Originally Posted by dretceterini As I have mentioned, there are pictures in the book of a Dagrada 750 with Meteor coachwork on pages 133 and 134, but they are coprighted, so I do not want to scan and post them. I would think Nada publishing owns the copyright or had written permission from the actual photographer to use them. I would contact them for photos. There are pictures of 3 other Fiat Dagrada 750s on pages 134 and 135 of the book. Two look like a late Urania or an early Giannini with cycle fenders. One is similar, but has a different looking front. It seems all the 750 Dagradas used Siata components in the engine construction.

[dretceterini]

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Originally Posted by litrico Thanks I heve the book, I'm looking for other pictures of the cars. Thanks Antonio

[iicarJohn]

Hello all,

Thanks to Bjarke I have now noticed this thread, which seems to be wandering a bit?

It will take some time, but I am sure that the AR6C2500 mystery can be solved with some efforts. Patience may be required, however. The Loewy-concept rear window design was used by a few coachbuilders. One car was severely criticised by judges at a concours for being such a direct rip-off of the Studebaker. I will dig up the references when I can.

I suppose if someone were to open a Dagrada thread, and were I to be made aware of that, I might post a couple of photos.

John de Boer
The Italian Car Registry

[litrico]

Dear John
have you by change any fotos about Dagrada? I have one of those.
Ciao

Antonio

[iicarJohn]

Dear Antonio,

Generally, I share information for information. I have some Dagrada information and photos. Which car do you have? You may respond publicly, I suppose, but you may also respond directly to me at iicarATearthlink.net

Best regards.

John de Boer
The Italian Car Registry