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Hi fellow Alfisti,

New to the world of Alfa with a 73 105 GT Veloce 2000.

Just wondering if anyone has contacted the Centro Documentazione Alfa Romeo recently for information on their Alfa.

I received the following email back. Has anyone else been asked to pay for information? Wow

Following your request, we would like to inform you that from our search in the production registers concerning the chassis number you provided, the following information is available:

- Model
- Production date
- Delivery date
- Market destination
- Exterior color
- Interior

The Certificate of Origin, printed on high-quality paper, will be sent to the address you have provided. A preview will be sent to your email address. The cost of this service is 70.00€.

As an alternative, the information could be provided in the text of an e-mail. The cost of this service is 30.00 €.

If you have the current engine number, we can check whether it’s original.

After you send us your confirmation by replying to this email, we will proceed to sending you the payment instructions.

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Yes, this seems to be the new policy since the archive reopened earlier his year.

No all that expensive -- and certainly far less expensive than (but not as detailed as) information one gets from Ferrari or Maserati.

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All,

Provided this statement:

"If you have the current engine number, we can check whether its original."

Do you think it's safe to assume that Alfa Centro Documentation is simply confirming if the engine number falls in the range of chassis numbers for a given model?

Or, is a more specific documentation of engine/chassis number now being offered by alfa ?

What do you think?
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They have specific documentation that match engine and VIN number.

Nice, they can print certificate now!
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"If you have the current engine number, we can check whether it’s original."

Do you think it's safe to assume that Alfa Centro Documentation is simply confirming if the engine number falls in the range of chassis numbers for a given model?
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They have specific documentation that match engine and VIN number.
The answer depends on model and year. I've been to the archive myself and have seen the 2600 documentation (I was granted complete, unsupervised access for research I was doing). These records are handwritten accounting ledgers, not build sheets, and there is NO information in these books concerning engine numbers.

But, it appears that when Alfa switched from handwritten records to computerized records for later models, they seem to have recorded engine numbers as well (for example, compare with what D'Amico & Tabucchi show on p. 13-16 of their book -- the computer printout for 105.12 (2000 Berlina) cars from 1971 seem to have chassis as well as engine numbers listed for each car, as shown in the picture below). So, yes, for a 73 GTV, I would expect that they have computerized records with the actual engine number, not just a number range.

However, there may be corporate policies in place that prevent the archive from releasing engine information up front where such information exists. They may be allowed to tell you if the number matches, not what it's supposed to look like -- similar to a testing whether your key fits the lock rather than telling you what the key for the lock should look like (e.g. to prevent fakes, etc.). By the same token, it appears the archive can no longer release the name and/or city of the first owner, even if they know it (which would only apply to sales in Italy).

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-Ruedi
'63 2600 Touring Spider (AR 191437, the car that started the 2000/2600 International Register, reassembly in progress)
ex-'65 2600 SZ (AR 856043, now a restomod in Austria)
Maintainer of a private 2600 SZ register (not the one in the Netherlands).

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Thank you for the clarification, I have never requested information about cars made before 70s.

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I should email them on my 64 Sprint GT

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As I understand Marco Fazio returned to historical services - Manager at FCA Heritage. I hope positive changes are coming

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