1966 Giulia Sprint GT pricing

[pigeonman]

I need to know what to offer a man willing to sell his '66 GT. It is in need o considerable bodywork as the cancerous rust is beginning to take over also upholstery is well needed. The piston rings have seized due to 9-10 years of non-use. It needs a battery and for tires not to mention hoses, belts and the works. He has quite a few spares including door interiors and door rubbers. Please help me price it. Also is it possible to install a/c without a hassle, and, a new radio?

-Thanks

[Racer X]

A Sprint GT is a $40,000 dollar car. You can pay less, but what ever you save on the purchase price, you must pay to the mechanics. Considerable body rust translates to $12,000 to the paint shop. Piston rings translates to $7,000 for a complete engine overhaul. 9-10 years of non-use translates to $6,000 in suspension, transmission, and rear end repair. Tires and wheels could be $2,000. Quite a few spares means, the parts in the car are shot, and the spares taken off of some other car are also shot. New interior will run $7,000 So with $34,000 in repairs, that means you could pay as much as $6,000 for this car. Of course my numbers may sound ridiculus, but seriously they are not. The smart money buys the car that has already been restored to the highest level, but what fun is that?

[Gary Williams]

Jeff is right, it's expensive to restore a worn and battered GTV, even if you can do a lot of the work yourself. Better to buy one that is already in good condition. My '67 GTV cost close to his estimate to refresh, and it's a two-owner car that has always been treated well, though used often.

If you'll forgive a family service announcement, my son is selling his very nice '74 GTV because he has a new child and needs a second car that is baby friendly. His car is a beauty that's ready to jump in and drive, as you can see here: Ted's GTV. If you want more info, you can send a private message to universible.

[Alfajay]

pigeonman - Here's yet another datapoint:

I recently completed a Sprint GT restoration, and concurr with Racer X's figures. Oh, I spent less on some items and more on others, but the total is about right. And again, I was starting with a decent car, though I did rebuild EVERYTHING. Paint & body was the big item for me, and again, my car wasn't that rusted or dinged. But, my bodyman was a perfectionist, and when he was done with his part, I felt the need to bring the other parts of the restoration up to the same standard. Perhaps you could save $10K by not worrying about door gaps, re-chroming, original-appearing upholstery, ...; in other words, by ignoring cosmetics, and just focusing on mechanical function. Of course, if you go that way, when you're done you'll wish you had made it prettier.

"considerable bodywork as the cancerous rust is beginning to take over" - You really don't want to buy a car with extensive rust. No way, no how. Even if you have an unlimited budget, the car will never turn out as nice as one that starts out less damaged.

"Also is it possible to install a/c without a hassle?" - The simple answer is "no". The 1600cc engine doesn't have the oomph to run the compessor, and you will bastardize the car. If you need A/C, buy a Honda.

[Bill S]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alfajay "Also is it possible to install a/c without a hassle?" - The simple answer is "no". The 1600cc engine doesn't have the oomph to run the compessor, and you will bastardize the car. If you need A/C, buy a Honda.

[alfagtv74]

you could find a nice gt for 20k

[Alex]

Pigeonman,

I cannot really add anything further to the comments made by others above, as these gentlemen have all been through this work in the recent past. However, I'm very interested in your mentioning of 'spare interior parts'. I'm actively looking for any early Sprint GT interior items (especially rear side cards) but they must be dark gray and be in excellent, unmolested condition. If you purchase the car and find that some items are surplus to your requirements (for example, if you choose to retrim the entire interior so everything matches) please let me know. Would you be able to post some photos on here for everyone's further information?

Alex.

[101/105guy]

:Alfa Romeo 1600 VELOCE Aluminum Engine CAM SHAFT COVER (#320264450374)
Alex, I think that this is the valve cover that you were looking for!
Auction closes tomorrow!
Randy

[Alex]

Randy,

Thank you very much for the heads-up! Looks like persistency does pay off eventually

Cheers,

Alex.

[pigeonman]

I must also mention that I am from Jamaica so I would be unable to give or sell anyone parts. On the other hand, the parts he has as I said in my first post will be for the good restoration of the car such as door interiors, original wood rimmed steering wheel, and rubber seals for the doors. I have numerous links to parts sources for parts that need not be genuine such as hoses, belts, shocks, spark plugs, etc. If there isn't anything my grandfather and I cannot do we know body repairmen and upholsterers. But i do not see myself purchasing a car in that condition for $40,000 which translates to about $2,880,000 Jamaican, so Racer X, you must be speaking in terms of restored condition. So tell me what you all think now.

[pigeonman]

Oh, by the way what I were to increase the hp of the engine by adding turbo, new intakes, etc. Would that give the engine the extra "oomph" to run the compressor. Also what would making these modifications entail? Has anyone done this?

[101/105guy]

Sounds more like a $500 parts car...
How many huricanes has it been thru?
Some rust and a siezed motor after siting 9 or 10 years....

[pigeonman]

LOL, is the hurricane reference due to the fact I'm in the Caribbean? To tell the truth it would have been through two when not in driving condition, the thing is although there is rust its not the worst I have seen but it does not absorb the body (mostly at the edges of the doors, bonnet, wheel arches, etc.) He installed a new dashboard and clocks so the interior doesn't look bad except the seats. The engine looks surprisingly clean. He also says the gearbox ought to be working fine. I think it would be a fun project though. What say you?

[Bill S]

Here in the states I think that car would be worth somewhere between $800 and $3000, depending on the extent of rust, pieces missing, etc. In other words, depending on if it's a parts car or a decent project car. I really don't have a clue about the market value for old cars in the Carribean. I've always admired the ingenuity of the Cubans that keep those old American cars from the 50's chugging around with bailing wire and duct tape though. Here it would be no big deal to put a larger displacement Alfa engine in to handle the AC but you probably don't have the same options in Jamaica. I wouldn't go the turbo route with this car though.

[pigeonman]

why no turbo Bill?