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04-11-2008, 08:24 PM
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Pedal Position
Hi,
I have a problem with the heights of my pedals. The clutch isn't fully disengauged unless the pedal is pushing into the carpet. I looked at the slave cylinder and the piston travels with the action of the pedal. I'm thinking if i just raise the pedal position up (earlier in its travel) that it will fix this. My other problem is that the gas pedal is in a higher position then the brake pedal. So when i go to down shift it makes it impossible to double clutch. Is there anyway to adjust these pedals?
thanks,
Bob
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04-11-2008, 09:47 PM
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Bend pedals for good alignment for heel'n'toe, but remember to check and adjust afterwards so that you still have throttle body fully open with gas pedal fully depressed.
Jes
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04-11-2008, 11:20 PM
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Throttle pedal "Heel & Toe Kit"?
I've heard others mention there's a "heel & toe kit" available for the GTV that lowers the throttle pedal position in relation to the brake pedal, but still gives full throttle opening. It's a re-worked throttle linkage rod... not sure of which part is modified.
Does anyone know any details about this, or where it might be available? Or... how can the throttle linkage be modified (I'm talking about the 115 GTV here) to give a lower pedal but full throttle opening?
The problem, it seems, with simply bending the throttle pedal down is it'll bump into its stop before the throttle is fully open.
Thanks,
George
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04-12-2008, 07:15 AM
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Bob,
I was assuming this might be for your Milano or GTV6 (didn't know you had a GTV), and I clicked straight to your post from the front page. So, I didn't see that it was in the GTV section - my bad. Anyway, on the Milano you can adjust the stop for the gas pedal (to some extend).
Jes
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04-12-2008, 12:00 PM
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The kit was available from the now-defunct Shankle Co. The range of movement of the throttle pedal from none to full throttle was decreased by lengthening the throttle shaft arm in the engine compartment. That way, full throttle was with the pedal all the way down but the pedal was lower at no throttle. A possible downside might have been a more "jumpy" car due to more throttle for a given pedal movement.
As an alternative to lowering the gas pedal for better heel-an-toe, just add a spacer to raise the gas pedal. I have done this to several cars and it works well (at least for me).
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Originally Posted by gattia86
I've heard others mention there's a "heel & toe kit" available for the GTV that lowers the throttle pedal position in relation to the brake pedal, but still gives full throttle opening. It's a re-worked throttle linkage rod... not sure of which part is modified.
Does anyone know any details about this, or where it might be available? Or... how can the throttle linkage be modified (I'm talking about the 115 GTV here) to give a lower pedal but full throttle opening?
The problem, it seems, with simply bending the throttle pedal down is it'll bump into its stop before the throttle is fully open.
Thanks,
George
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04-12-2008, 02:20 PM
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Hi George,
Do you add a spacer on the brake pedal at the top where it meets the brake master cylinder or just a thick pad where your foot touches?
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04-12-2008, 05:03 PM
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Hi Bob,
I added a spacer onto the brake pedal. I first made a duplicate of the brake pedal out of 1/8 in steel, drilled 3 holes in the original pedal around where the lever arm is welded, and duplicated these in the dummy pedal. I countersunk the holes in the dummy to accept three 5/16-18 flat head screws, fastened these to the dummy with hex nuts, then used 2 nuts on each side of the screws passing through the original pedal to space the dummy away from the original. I removed the rubber pedal pad from the original pedal and attached to the new (dummy) pedal.
This works well. I can place the toe of my right foot on the spaced brake pedal, blip the gas with my heel, and double clutch downshift from 5th to 1st whith steady pressure on the brake during the entire time. One last item; this works best with a nice firm brake pedal. I use a Mityvac for bleeding, and change brake fluid once a year.
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Originally Posted by bobsiopener
Hi George,
Do you add a spacer on the brake pedal at the top where it meets the brake master cylinder or just a thick pad where your foot touches?
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04-13-2008, 02:00 AM
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The Shankle "heel & toe" kit works very well and is not the least bit "jumpy". I think there is a drawing here on the BB if you do a search.
Ed
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04-13-2008, 03:50 AM
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I bought two weeks ago a Clutch Master Cylinder from Centerline Alfa.
To my big surprise the Master Cylinder was Adjustable !!!
Maybe you could that a try to !
Marc
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