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07-06-2007, 12:28 AM
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Cheers Graham....Ive also requested a set from Archivio Storico as well....eagerly awaiting their feedback
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Now something else you should look at is the CardDisc CD, which has a lot of good stuff on it including, parts catalogues, shop manuals i.e Ate Brake Manuals, body manuals, engine, clutch, gearbox manuals, electrical system manual, wiring diagrams, etc etc etc. Plus a load of sales brochures for coupe, spider and berlina etc.
Costs about 60 USD but well worth investment. Google CarDisc International Ltd and you will see the choices on line. You want the CD titled ALFA Romeo 1750 Spider and GTV 1968 to 1971. It covers all 1750 GTv and both Round-Tail & Kamm-Tail Spiders, so it has both Euro Spec 1750 and US.
Simple Credit card order and it will be with you in a week. I could print off the parts manual from the cd but would prefer to get a copy from Milan if possible.
Phil
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1961 MGA 1600 Roadster, British Racing Green
1966 Giulia Sprint GT ,Argento
1970 1750 GTV s2, Verde Olivo Metallica (AR213)
2005 Holden Rodeo LT Crew Cab, Fox Fire Red
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Previously owned
1983 Ford Laser KB, Beige
1985 Volvo 360 GLT Dark Mettalic Blue
1970 GT Junior stepnose Resprayed Red, Giallo Ochre
1923 Amilcar Sports, rusty
I may only own two ALFAs now, but the handle stays as I am always chasing another one. 
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07-06-2007, 12:55 AM
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I'll be very interested to hear if they give you a 1750 parts catalogue. I got one for my sprint plus everything else I asked for but no 1750 parts catalogue. ... Frank if they send you a 1750 parts catalogue please let me know, so I can hassle them again. Hopefully I will not need to.
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I have a photo copy of the genuine parts catalogue for the 105 series and it has 1300, 1600, 1750 and 2000 series cars in it and all combinations inbetween, thus some pages have lots of variations. Its an enormous catalogue about 4 inches thick, has everything from front bumper to rear bumper and ofcourse all part numbers. Pretty sure though, from memory, it does not cover the GTA.
And yes it is absolutely genuine because my father worked as a service manager at an Alfa Romeo dealership and made the poor secretary photo copy it for me ... took her about a week between jobs
It's my bible.
Pete
ps: I guess maybe when the 1750 first came out there might have been a specific one and thus this (my one) is a later reprint/consolidated catalogue ... but don't need anything else anyway 
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07-06-2007, 08:10 AM
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FMD159,
One of the great things about cars is there are many different enthusiasts that get many different things from them AND I have found this can cause fireworks.
Thus there is no way a car could be restored by a committee ... all members would kill each other long before the car was finished 
Now this is completely different from asking for somebodies help, ie. how was it done originally?, or I can't work something out ... etc.
Thus this site like ALL automotive sites is great for helping you out, but opinions ... hmmm, well lets just say we are all passionate with our views 
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It does not take much time reading this great BB to know that members are passionate, and sometimes go overboard. I've seen threads that start out with a discussion of the new 8C evolve (devolve) into discussions about the world trade center and Iraq!
I'm intrigued by the idea of restoring a car by committee. I'm sure Pete is correct that it is impossible. But it would be interesting to do a poll somewhere where we try it. Maybe with several categories:
1. Looks-exterior
---stepnose or not?
---color?
---2 headlights or 4?
---grille treatment?
---tailights/markers
---wheels/tire sizes
2. Looks-interior
---dash?
---console?
---seats?
3. Engine
---size
---Fuel delivery system
4. Handling/Suspension/Steering
5. Other?
Although we would have a lot of opinions, it would be interesting to see what kind of monster would result if we took the majority view on each point. My own guess is that it would look/perform most like a 1969 1750 GTV!
John
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07-06-2007, 08:49 AM
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There is no such thing ???
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I have a photo copy of the genuine parts catalogue for the 105 series and it has 1300, 1600, 1750 and 2000 series cars in it and all combinations inbetween, thus some pages have lots of variations. Its an enormous catalogue about 4 inches thick, has everything from front bumper to rear bumper and ofcourse all part numbers. Pretty sure though, from memory, it does not cover the GTA.
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I'm not familiar with that catalog and would love to see a picture of the cover . I don't care if it's a copy, I am just curious. I'd also like to know the publication number. You should find that on one of the last couple of pages.
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07-06-2007, 09:14 AM
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I'm not familiar with that catalog and would love to see a picture of the cover .
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07-06-2007, 06:09 PM
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it would be great to do a resto by committee, have a competition by state/Country...we could have teams....it would be like a classic version of "American Chopper" come "Big Brother" (for all the passionate ones)!!!!
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07-07-2007, 03:46 AM
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gentlemen....im beginning to polish up all the little bits and pieces and boxing them away until they are ready to be re-united with the car...i have sent off the dash to be restored...seats to be re-upholstered, and the original steering wheel wood to be restored....
I have a problem with the rear light assembly housing, which I thought was steel but discovered that its chrome plated on plastic...gee I hate that!!...  its all flaking off and in an effort to save these, I was wondering...can these be re-chrome plated?  or if there is another process to strip this off and plate it again....??
The other problem I have is that the passenger hand grip/light assembly...i want to get these re-plated as well but cant for the life of me figure out a non destructive way to remove the handle/spring assembly from the main body?? Does anyone know of a non destructive way to do this...??
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Plastic can be replated by specialists but you'd be better advised to try to find a NOS or repro item (the earlier mazac version is NLA but replates beautifully). Somewhere on the 'net there is a huge website devoted to plating and coatings, so you should be able to get this done. The light/handle unit can be taken apart completely - there is a spring in the handle pivot which has to be carefully unclipped with a metal point (etc) but make a VERY careful note of how this spring should be orientated and be prepared for a difficult re-assembly! I have bought several of these light units for spare parts, as the internal plastic can melt from the heat of the bulb, and the three-position switches can also be temperamental. You might like to do the same thing, check eBay. I would not recommend trying to remove the plastic handle material from the pivot, just clean as best you can and lightly polish the pivot end, it should come up like new. The opaque plastic light cover is available new, and I recommend finding one of these new mini LED clusters in the festoon style because they do not emit any heat.
Alex.
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Reason: Correction of a brain f@rt brought about by 6 hours sleep in two days :D
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07-07-2007, 04:30 AM
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Grab handle;
Carefully slide the 'knot' to reveal two nails. The nails, each inserted from the opposite direction, hold the handle to the light assembly (white arrows). Remove the nails (which will break in the process). A pin holds the spring loaded portion of the handle to the light. The exit hole for the pin is shown by the black arrow (push the pin from the other side). Use caution when the pin is removed as parts may fly off into the cosmic void. Note that the spring mechanisms are different for left and rightside handles. If the metal is not too badly pitted, it can be smoothed out and chromed like the handle in the pic. The plan is to use 4mm bolts, nuts and washers to reattach the handle to the light.
Taillight;
I've no experience with rechroming these. I went with new, complete assemblies including lenses.
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07-07-2007, 04:41 AM
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Grab handle;
Taillight;
I've no experience with rechroming these. I went with new, complete assemblies including lenses.
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FMD, if we were dealing with a series 2 you could use the lights from a sprint or a Gt Veloce as they use real chromed metal surrounds not the crappy plastic stuff we got stuck with on the 1750's. However that would mean you have to modify your car to take the wrong tail lights, which would not be the way to go. Actually I am only bringing this up in case someone with an S2 has the same dilema. I would go with Papajams advice on this one. New tail lights look really nice and go well with fresh paint, old tired lenses and chrome will spoil this effect.
Phil
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1961 MGA 1600 Roadster, British Racing Green
1966 Giulia Sprint GT ,Argento
1970 1750 GTV s2, Verde Olivo Metallica (AR213)
2005 Holden Rodeo LT Crew Cab, Fox Fire Red
{Oo==V==oO}
Previously owned
1983 Ford Laser KB, Beige
1985 Volvo 360 GLT Dark Mettalic Blue
1970 GT Junior stepnose Resprayed Red, Giallo Ochre
1923 Amilcar Sports, rusty
I may only own two ALFAs now, but the handle stays as I am always chasing another one.
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07-07-2007, 06:08 AM
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...the internal plastic can melt from the heat of the bulb... and I recommend finding one of these new mini LED clusters in the bayonet style because they do not emit any heat.
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When you go searching for them, they're festoon bulbs. Bayonet bulbs are the one's in your tail lights. Sorry to correct you Alex . We don't want to lead the lad down the wrong path.
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07-08-2007, 02:50 AM
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I'm not familiar with that catalog and would love to see a picture of the cover . I don't care if it's a copy, I am just curious. I'd also like to know the publication number. You should find that on one of the last couple of pages.
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 . Bloody lazy secretary.
What I can tell you is that it is the parts manual for the 1300, 1600, 1750 and 2000 105 series, and has French, English and Dutch languages translations.
It covers the:
1300 - Giulia T.I., Giulia Super, Giulia Super 1.3, G.T Junior, G.T Junior 1.3, Spider Junior, Spider Junior 1.3
1600 - Giulia Super, Spider Super 1.6, G.T. Junior 1.6, Spider Junior 1.6
1750 - Berlina, G.T.V, Spider V.
2000 - Berlina, G.T.V and Spider V.
and has around 250 pages.
Basically it is a dealership parts catalogue and has 34 sections from engine to trim, to accessories including tools such as jacks.
Every page has 'Tavola' in the top right corner ... whatever that means, if that helps? .
Best
Pete
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Guys thanks for your advice regarding the passenger hand grip/light assembly. I have now disassembled and included the appropriate pieces with the other components required for re-chroming this week.
Yes I will purchase complete rear light assemblies as suggested...makes good sence...
My next questions I have are; I am planning to have an array of little interior and exterior bits and pieces re-chromed...and thought Id include the center "heart" nose grill and head light rims, 1750 boot lid badge..thought about the front grill assembly but thought no..ill powder coat in black.....anyway back to my question...what material is the "heart" nose grill and headlight rims made of? can these be re- chromed?
Is it worth having stainless steel pieces chromed?
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