04-23-2008, 05:34 AM
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with the old badly repaired stuff gone, we are ready to stitch the new front nose on...
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04-23-2008, 04:33 PM
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Hmmm, something is not quite right about the front of your car  .
You have blanked out the series 2 1750 or 2000 indicator holes and yet you have 4 air entry holes for radiator air. This only came out (I believe) for later series 2 1750's, thus as you are restoring yours (correctly) as a series 1, you should blank out the lower 2 air entry slots/holes on your new panel.
My car is a series 2 1750 and only has the 2 upper radiator air slots/holes and it most definitely has never had a new nose panel (until my repairs). Thus I believe your car has had at some stage (maybe only a partial?) and ofcourse is about to get another . I believe no front panel would have ever been made without the later indicator holes AND 4 radiator air slots/holes.
I would be interested to hear/read what papajim says about this.
Here is the front of my car (a while ago):
Best
Pete
ps: and nice work BTW.
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04-23-2008, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PSk
Hmmm, something is not quite right about the front of your car .
You have blanked out the series 2 1750 or 2000 indicator holes and yet you have 4 air entry holes for radiator air. This only came out (I believe) for later series 2 1750's, thus as you are restoring yours (correctly) as a series 1, you should blank out the lower 2 air entry slots/holes on your new panel.
My car is a series 2 1750 and only has the 2 upper radiator air slots/holes and it most definitely has never had a new nose panel (until my repairs). Thus I believe your car has had at some stage (maybe only a partial?) and ofcourse is about to get another . I believe no front panel would have ever been made without the later indicator holes AND 4 radiator air slots/holes.
I would be interested to hear/read what papajim says about this.
Here is the front of my car (a while ago):
Best
Pete
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Hello PsK,
I had exact same concern regarding the 4 radiator air slots after viewing some illustrations of the series 1, but historically my series 1 has not had a front panel nose job replaced before and the original panel which I have removed as illustrated in the photos shows the 4 slots?!
From the inside photograph of the original you can see the the bottom half of the valance has had some work (badly done), but definitely 4 slots as the original panel suggests....
I also had this conversation with Giles from Classic Alfa in the UK, whom I purchased this reproduction panel from and to make it correct I had to blank out the indicator cavities.
They reproduce this panel configuration complete with 4 slots and the indicator cavities...
Maybe there where some European series 1 configurations that made it to Australia with 4 slots??
Cheers
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04-23-2008, 06:46 PM
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Hey there - an inspiring thread, thanks! My Mk1 1750, a UK car from 1968 has just the two slots, not four. I know it is the original front end as I to need to replace it. Not sure what yours should be, just wanted you to know.
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Keith. (following with interest)
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04-23-2008, 07:46 PM
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Somewhere in this thread: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/gt-1...-do-again.html ... is your answer. I tried but could not find the right posts, but this car had a new front panel added and they welded up the bottom two slots.
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04-24-2008, 04:45 AM
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This doesnt explain why my car originally had 4 vents???!!
And is a series 1 to boot!?
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05-09-2008, 11:11 PM
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Guys...Im gonna stick with the 4 vents, so thanks for all your feedback.
Moving along...I am wanting to recondition the rear tail light assemblies...I aquired original series 1 NOS lenses from PapaJam some time ago but need to prepare the tail light housing.
These seem to be made of cast aluminium and I have removed the reflector shields for re-chroming, but it appears that the 3 slots that fit bulb housing have been damaged (see photos)...is there a way to repair this? Also is there a process that I can treat these once repaired so they dont suffer the white layer of surface corrosion?
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05-10-2008, 04:16 AM
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Getting back to the vents for a moment, the parts books show 1750s with 2 vents and the 2l with 4. However, there have been posts on this BB from 1750 owners stating that their cars have 4 vents.One possible explanation is that during the 1750 production run, Alfa changed the design from 2 to 4 and just started assembling the cars with them when they (the 4 vents valance) became available.
Frank,
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05-11-2008, 03:14 PM
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If they're cast Aluminum (and not pot metal)...and you're going to go the full nine yards on restoring these....I would have them anodized (after repair), epoxy primed and epoxy or urethane painted to the original colour. In the aircraft industry, this is more or less a standard coating application. Now alternatively you could get have them powder coated...but I'm not as familiar with this system on Aluminum parts.
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05-11-2008, 06:35 PM
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Getting back to the vents for a moment, the parts books show 1750s with 2 vents and the 2l with 4. However, there have been posts on this BB from 1750 owners stating that their cars have 4 vents.One possible explanation is that during the 1750 production run, Alfa changed the design from 2 to 4 and just started assembling the cars with them when they (the 4 vents valance) became available.
Frank,
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But Jim that only makes sense for Series 2 1750's not Series 1.
All Series 1's should have 2 slots (actually + 1 exit). This car is a series 1.
Some Series 2's should have 2 slots (+ 1 exit) like my car.
Somes Series 2's should have 4 slots (+ 1 exit) like 2000's.
And all 2000's should have 4 slots (+ 1 exit).
Remember the indicators were relocated and thus a press tool change. Later on Alfa Romeo had to make another press tool change to get the 4 slots ... surely that means it is impossible to have a no indicator holes (ie Series 1) and 4 slots. Why would they have gone to the extra effort of being able to make in both configurations?
Thus if this car is completed with 4 slots (+ 1 exit) he (FMD159) is going to continually be queried ... at club meets, etc.  ... and this is going to be a nice car when completed .
Pete
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05-13-2008, 04:58 AM
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I have just taken delivery of my engine bottom end and components from the local engineer. I have had the following done:
1. Resize conrods and aligned.
2. Replaced all bush pins fit and aligned.
3. Linish the crank per pin
4. Balance complete engine assembly
5. Dummy assemble and measure main bearing clearances.
6. Measure conrod bearing clearances
7. Machined piston valve reliefs
8. Cleaned out all water jackets and cleaned the interior of the block.
Before I begin assembly...I am planning on cleaning the outside of the cast engine block and then thinking about spraying it with "VHT Engine Enamel" - Universal Aluminium colour...
Does anyone have any suggestions of the best products to clean the outer surface of the engine block and suggestions about spraying it??
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07-12-2008, 03:43 AM
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Hello Guys...its been a while...while we make majic with the engine..thought I share some updates for the body work for june and july....
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07-12-2008, 03:45 AM
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and more...!
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07-12-2008, 03:56 AM
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these are the latest photos...i have had the boot, engine bay and complete under-carriage of the car sprayed and redy to take delivery of the engine and running gear...the bosy is still in primer..
the colour was to be representative of Grigio Graphite...AR716 of the era...but decided for AR656 Grigio Nettuno for a metallic finish...
here are the pics to date!!
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07-12-2008, 04:01 AM
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more photos...and once I receive all my nuts, bolts and washers from the zinc plater and all the bushes are pressed into all the front and rear suspension components, we can start some real assembly...I am also waiting for my hydraulic and fuel lines to come back from the plater as well...
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