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Old 12-29-2006, 11:17 PM
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Smile Pics of Euro-spec 1974 GTV's??

Hi all.... great site

Just about ready to put a new clutch in my father's 66K mile one-owner GTV, which he stopped driving over ten years ago and has sat in his garage ever since, and while researching the car's history decided that at some point I'd like to start restoring it. Mechanically, it's sound (or at least it was before he put it away ) but initially I'm planning on replacing the soft parts in the braking and suspension systems. I'd also eventually like to add Webers, a tubular header, ditch the A/C and bumpers, 15x7 Panasports, and proper springs to give it that SCCA-ready stance, among other things.

Appearance-wise, I've read that the European GTV's had slimmer bumpers (sans over-riders), different badging, and smaller side marker lights. So if anyone can confirm the cosmetic differences between the U.S. and European GTV's and possibly have detailed pics of these cars, I'd really appreciate it

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Old 12-30-2006, 10:38 AM
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Will this be a race car or a street car? Original 1 owner cars are scarce and yours has all the nice bits spica,ac etc.Tube headers on a street car can cook a lot of things under the hood.for the street the original manifolds are hard to beat and a wes ingram hp spica pump is the bees knees if you ask me.Euro cars have signal lites above the bumper,u.s. cars below and in this case i prefer the look of the lites below the bumper looks cleaner to me.Euro cars have small front side signals that are a nice mod on the u.s. cars.Euro car does not have the iniezone badge on the trunk and some differences to the license plate lites.For photos try the search function.Free unsolicited advice keep it original,play with the springs and tire combo and drive it.And some pictures would be nice,welcome to the bb.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:49 PM
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Hi Joe,
I just picked up a 72 GTV 2000 from Europe. My friend in TO has a 72 like mine but the US version. Major differences are: Front bumper has indents on the top for the turn signals (which is above bumper vs. below bumper for US models). Also, the cars in Europe are generally lower than the NA cars as is the case with mine. The side blinkers are much nocer in Euro models. The guages inside are in Italian; benzina, olio etc. The rear tail lights are amber and white not red as they are in the US. Have fun!

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Old 12-31-2006, 10:03 AM
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Thanks for the responses, guys. Had I looked a little more before I posted this, I would've found the GTV picture thread!

It's going to be a weekend-driven street car, and my father would never part with it, so I figured that it wouldn't hurt to modify to our tastes while I'm at it. That said, I'm trying to keep it as original as possible; the paint (Dutch Blue) and interior (tan) will stay but the wheels, lights, and bumpers will change, the A/C (my father says that this stopped working almost immediately after he left Otto Zipper Alfa!) will be gone, and the motor will be built-up (cams, headwork, blueprinted and balanced bottom end, ceramic-coated header, exhaust, etc.) From what I've gathered, even a prepared SPICA injection setup probably wouldn't be able to cope with these mods.

I asked my father to dig up a picture of the car sitting in his driveway from a few years back, since one taken now would just show a really dusty, *kinda* blue, GTV sitting in a garage

And thanks for the info, Roberto!
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The motor will be built-up (cams, headwork, blueprinted and balanced bottom end, ceramic-coated header, exhaust, etc.) From what I've gathered, even a prepared SPICA injection setup probably wouldn't be able to cope with these mods.
These mods will realistically give you about 160 bhp, which a HP Spica injection pump will be able to handle with ease.

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Fitting the front euro signals will mean cutting holes in the front valance,as they are fit to the body vs the u.s. cars hung under the bumper.I am in the planning parts hunting phase of my gtv resto , so its interesting to read what others are doing.I have a euro parts car dutch blue with brown that has the front euro lites if you want them,and if you get rid of the ac and want to sell or trade for it i would be interested.One of the mods i was thinking of was to fit ac to a non ac car,either period after market or a modern unit hidden under dash.
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I'll definitely have to research the f.i. system more thoroughly; would like to keep it, since the Weber setup isn't exactly cheap (or original...), but my father says it was problematic, so we're just exploring our options.

And I'll shoot you a pm once I've got the A/C components off the car.
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I'll definitely have to research the f.i. system more thoroughly; would like to keep it, since the Weber setup isn't exactly cheap (or original...), but my father says it was problematic, so we're just exploring our options.
They were problematic in the past, mainly because there was not much information available about how to diagnose and tune them. With resources such as this BB, the situation is much better now.

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Hi all.... great site

Just about ready to put a new clutch in my father's 66K mile one-owner GTV, which he stopped driving over ten years ago and has sat in his garage ever since, and while researching the car's history decided that at some point I'd like to start restoring it. Mechanically, it's sound (or at least it was before he put it away ) but initially I'm planning on replacing the soft parts in the braking and suspension systems. I'd also eventually like to add Webers, a tubular header, ditch the A/C and bumpers, 15x7 Panasports, and proper springs to give it that SCCA-ready stance, among other things.

Appearance-wise, I've read that the European GTV's had slimmer bumpers (sans over-riders), different badging, and smaller side marker lights. So if anyone can confirm the cosmetic differences between the U.S. and European GTV's and possibly have detailed pics of these cars, I'd really appreciate it

-Joe
I will try to attach a few pictures of what a European GTV 2000 looks like, as the other member replied the front bumper is different due to the signal lights. Also if you look closely at the front extrerior head lights you will see a small lever at the bottom of the chrom ring, this is for when you have a heavy load in your car the front lights will point higher than they should, so you position the lever to the other side and the lights will point lower.
You will find that there are small round side markers only on the front of the car on either side of the fenders and that the only sign on the back of the car is the Alfa Romeo round logo with a chrome 2000 lettering underneth the logo on the trunk lid. The rear lights are a different color. The interior dash as mentioned before are all in Italian writing, there is also a throttle and choke lever on the left side of the steering wheel and no hazard switch anywhere.
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