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Old 01-03-2007, 02:34 PM
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Many years ago when I built my last club race car I had all the high tensile bolts plated (silver colour though). I was informed by the plater or the bolt supplier or a random stranger (, as I cannot remember whom) that this process induces stress in the high tensile bolts and should be stress relieved.

To do this you need to heat to 200 degrees C for a couple of hours, again if I remember right. I did this.

Anybody else have any knowledge about this. I'll make a new thread in the restoration section ...
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:37 PM
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Many years ago when I built my last club race car I had all the high tensile bolts plated (silver colour though). I was informed by the plater or the bolt supplier or a random stranger (, as I cannot remember whom) that this process induces stress in the high tensile bolts and should be stress relieved.

To do this you need to heat to 200 degrees C for a couple of hours, again if I remember right. I did this.

Anybody else have any knowledge about this. I'll make a new thread in the restoration section ...
Pete

Yikes. I definitely wasn't planning on that. I hope everything doesn't fall apart as I'm going through turn 8.

If anybody else knows anything about this, please let us know.
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Old 01-03-2007, 02:39 PM
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Very nice work Bryan, and thanks for all the progress photos.
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Yikes. I definitely wasn't planning on that. I hope everything doesn't fall apart as I'm going through turn 8.

If anybody else knows anything about this, please let us know.
Bryan,

See this thread: Plating high tensile bolts, it's called Hydrogen embrittlement.

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Old 01-03-2007, 04:53 PM
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FABULOUS!!! Job- well done
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Very nice work Bryan, and thanks for all the progress photos.
Tim, if possible, I would love to see two pictures side by side of the rears of your 66 mustang and a 65-67 GTV. Can anybody make this happen?
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See this thread: Plating high tensile bolts, it's called Hydrogen embrittlement.

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Great! So how long, and at what temp, do i need to cook these suckers?
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Old 01-03-2007, 06:23 PM
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Great! So how long, and at what temp, do i need to cook these suckers?
Maybe you should ask your plater, as the temperatures mentioned on that table I posted don't make sense. I will keep researching though.

Also it might not be required:
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Per ASTM B 850-94 "For Steels of actual tensile strength below
1000 MPa, Heat treatment after plating is not essential."
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Your plater should know what is required, especially if he cad plates for the aviation industry. Just ask him if he passivated all your parts, and if not, why not??? The Mil Standard that they should have been done to is QQ-P-416. If they were done to MIL-STD-1500, then they probably weren't passivated. -1500 was superceded by -416. -416 introduced the passivation process to prevent embrittlement.
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Here are some pics of the parts after they came back from the powder coater. ... Some of you purists aren't gonna like the wheels, but I'm going for something a little bit different and as far as i know, no one has done black panas yet... chime in if you have.
Bryan, black Minilites with polished rims were popular in period here in Australia - the picture shows an Alfa at a recent historic meeting. The all-black look is more current though - I think Max Banks' car is/was set up like that.

Thanks for your posts - just what I need to get me out of the post-Christmas lethargy and starting my restoration ....
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:27 PM
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Those black minilites with the polished rims look great!! I don't suppose you have a bigger photo of that car do you Colin?? I'd like to photoshop it to see what the car would look like in French Blue.
Very very nice car
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Bryan, black Minilites with polished rims were popular in period here in Australia - the picture shows an Alfa at a recent historic meeting. The all-black look is more current though - I think Max Banks' car is/was set up like that.

Thanks for your posts - just what I need to get me out of the post-Christmas lethargy and starting my restoration ....
Your car looks great! I'm glad to hear that the thread is helping to motivate alfa restoration. I'll have to check out Max's website to see if there any pics of black wheels.

Hey Max, if you're reading this, please post a pic of a 105 on black panasports.
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You know how sometimes you just can't wait to see how some things are going to look? I wasted about half an hour putting a wheel on to my freshly assembled 4.10 rear end, just to see what it would look like. So now I have to take it back off and get to work.
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Your car looks great! I'm glad to hear that the thread is helping to motivate alfa restoration. I'll have to check out Max's website to see if there any pics of black wheels.

Hey Max, if you're reading this, please post a pic of a 105 on black panasports.
Bryan, the 1750's not my car (I wish...) - I think it belongs to Peter Ireland, who's a Ferrari Club member here in Sydney (check out the license plate in the pic below).

There are a number of pix of the Alfaholics car on their website, in the competition reports section - I've attached one below...
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Thanks, those pics look great! I think that car has been influencing me su