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Old 10-14-2009, 10:07 PM
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1971 GTV 1750 (45,000 original mi ) Price?

I have a 1971 GTV 1750 with 45,000 original miles, on a car I just bought.
It has been garage stored, and not driven since 1982.
The owner (80+ years old...) told me he had the engine "blue printed" by the Carroll Shelby mechanics back when he bought it.
Everything is original except for the electronic fuel injector he put on it ("Air Sensors"), the exhaust, brakes and tires (normal wear-n-tear items).

I'm not a mechanic, and my wife won't let me keep it.

What is it worth???

Tom in Olympia WA

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Old 10-14-2009, 11:47 PM
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In Europe normally a fine original and rustfree 1750 GTV is listed about 20.000 - 25.000 € (30.000 - 37.000$) if it is really good. I guess in the States this is not the case. Maybe you should only expect 12 - 15.000$. The pictures do not say much about the condition underneath and inside. It has GTV 2000 rear lights, Serial 2 bumpers, aftermarket rims, and sidemarker lights which is not so high appreciated by 1750 lovers. On the other hand the colorcombo looks good.

When I think of the problems Soccersimon has selling his marvellous Spider for 24 grand I guess you should not expect an easy sell.

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Old 10-15-2009, 12:37 AM
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It has GTV 2000 rear lights
I'm pretty sure, that many - if not all - 1750GTV series 2 bound for the US were equipped with the larger rear lights. So this could indeed be original configuration for this car - and therefore original in US terms!
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Old 10-15-2009, 01:10 AM
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Right Nimbus - I only mentioned it because the smaller "European" lights give a more elegant appearance from behind and as far as I remember the horns could be removed easily from the bumpers for a more clean look but a 1750 is still a 1750 and always one of the Giulias to have.

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Old 10-15-2009, 01:26 AM
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Yeahh you're absolutely right - the smaller rear lenses are much more elegant.
That was an essential issue for me, when I went searching for my car in 2004 - the
car SHOULD have the small Carellos :-D :-)
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:12 AM
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Tail lights are correct for a US '71. Though indeed a bit less elegant then the smaller lights, it doesn't detract from the fact that series 2 1750's are the best of the bunch (yes, i'm biased). As far as value, do a search in the classified section of this forum for cars in similar shape and vintage to get an idea what they are selling for. Of coarse, now is not the best time to sell a car, economy still bad and all. I suggest getting it going and driving it! Explain to the wife that you would be losing money selling it now.
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:28 AM
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Take it to Carlo

You should take it in to Carlo at Alfa of Tacoma. He may have a buyer in mind, but he could also do a very thorough survey of the car and give you a price range. Nice car good luck!
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:00 AM
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the guy is asking for comments on an asking price not personal opinions on whether or not you like the rear tail lights
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:28 AM
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Hi lowmileage

Your comments are accepted. I did mention my idea of an asking price but made an additional remark about the serial 2 tail lights and horns just because that is normally an issue in discussions between first and second series just as the seat design and pedal arrangements are. I think it just gives the discussion of price tags a little more, than just putting figures on.

You may be right about which version is the best buy, but it seems to me that the first series are more sought after here in EU, of course I do not know if it is opposite in the States, but I hope we can agree on that it is a wonderful car. I did have a 1750 from 68 years ago and still miss it.

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Old 10-15-2009, 01:43 PM
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Each year "Sports Car Market News" publishes a price guide, which gives a range of historic auction prices for cars by year & model. In the 2009 edition they quote $14,500 - $24,500 (which seems like an awfully broad range) for the 1971 - 1974 GTV. They also note that these prices are up 13% over 2008.

Lots of people criticize SCM's prices, but I find them to be a good starting point. Again, these are actual auction results, so you can't accuse Keith Martin of bias. Sure, any car may fetch more from an unreported private sale, but that data is difficult to come by.

So, what is Tom's car worth? Well probably somewhere toward the upper part of this range. It certainly looks nice in his photos. Not clear what work has been done to it recently. Having only 45,000 miles is good, but cars deteriorate over time, so it still may need a lot of parts replaced just from age-related degradation.

I didn't follow the bit about "the electronic fuel injector he put on it ("Air Sensors")" . Has it been converted from Spica to EFI (sounds that way) - if so, more detail and photos would be useful. Questions like whether the conversion was done professionally or by an amateur, if the original Spica comes with the car, what make/model controller was used, ... should be addressed.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:25 AM
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Yep your'e right about this lowmilage!
I got carried away on this subject - I'll go slap my fingers!
Sorry Alfagolf!
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Please tell us about the object on the roof

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Old 10-17-2009, 12:47 PM
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Some sort of wing? Hopefully there aren't any roof penetrations...
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Old 10-17-2009, 01:04 PM
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Fine observation Biscione. First I thought it was something behind the car but by zooming in it looks like a small sunroof and not only a Cab sign or commercial sign. Let's wait and hear Toms explanation. If it is a small sunroof only for the driver I have never seen that solution before but quite a good thing in a hot Giulia

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