A very modified GTV - Page 3

acalvi · #31 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 01:52 AM

What I see behind the front fenders are speaker holes?
Will they be part of the lightening program?
I'm looking forward to see the developement of this project.

**akitaman** · #32 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 09:38 AM

Hi Acalvi yes those are big nasty speaker holes. They will be fixed soon.

And roof be gone!

**kengta** · #33 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by akitaman

Hi Ken!- everything we have done to this point was done knowing we have access to what we need. It would be very goofy of me to pull metal with no replacements in hand or ablity to get them. I say this because the biggest hang up one will run into when doing this level of work is the aluminum roof. Nobody has or makes them. But we have that worked out too. I will send you the details in the very near future.

**gprocket** · #34 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 02:29 PM

Well I for one hope that the majority of panels are produced here in the states. No offense to the overseas suppliers (they make great stuff) but it would be nice to see a source for high quality panels be developed around here. We ceratainly have the capability to do so.

I am sure Daron had a plan already in place long before the first cut was made. But being the man of mystery he is he will only share it when it's time.

Nice to have you back posting regularly my friend- just separate the wheat from the chaff...

**MeanRedSpider** · #35 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 02:40 PM

Is that a Gordini in the background or just a standard Renault 8 (or something else?)

I race against a very very smart Gordini

Me and the Gordini in my first race ever.

Richard

ye52026 · #36 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 02:53 PM

After reading all the previous posts, I'm in no doubt this will be one of the most interesting threads ever on the BB - subscribed!

**akitaman** · #37 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 08:43 PM

Hi Ken- P.m. me your number and I will share with you a few things. I will do anything I can to help.
Rich D. You know me better then that. I do plenty of dumb things, but not that dumb!

Richard- yes it is the real deal. It ran the Shell 4000 in Canada back its prime. We have two of them. Both have race history. The one you see is mine. The other is a local race prep shop owners. BTW, I need body panels do you have a supplier? I'll make them if must but I'd rather not.

Ye52026- I hope you enjoy. We try to make it fun and friendly. Nothing more, nothing less.

Alright, So as we said before this a 74 with those 74 heavy doors. Once the skin was removed, we then pulled the reinforcement beam and then drilled holes as to reduce weight,... 27 pounds! In one door. Now, all the holes we drilled will be flared later with a special press die system. I say this because if you can flare the hole, you will make the metal far more rigid then if the metal was uncut. If you have not seen this before stay tuned. Also when making this many holes I like to use aviation flares over automotive. I'll explain later.

Heres the door prior to cutting.

And after.

And other areas on this side of the car.

The parcel tray area before...

And after

Once all this is flared it will look so nice.

**kengta** · #38 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 09:17 PM

Daron, PM sent.

How are punching the holes, a Greenlee punch, hand or power??

ciao

Ken

**kengta** · #39 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 09:23 PM

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Richard- yes it is the real deal. It ran the Shell 4000 in Canada back its prime. We have two of them. Both have race history. The one you see is mine. The other is a local race prep shop owners. BTW, I need body panels do you have a supplier? I'll make them if must but I'd rather not. End quote

I have a picture somewhere of and Super or Berlina stuck well in the mud on one of those Shell 4000's. Always wondered what happened to that Alfa.

Ciao

Ken

Alleggerita · #40 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by akitaman

I have a picture somewhere of and Super or Berlina stuck well in the mud on one of those Shell 4000's. Always wondered what happened to that Alfa.

Ciao

Ken

**MeanRedSpider** · #41 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by akitaman

Richard- yes it is the real deal. It ran the Shell 4000 in Canada back its prime. We have two of them. Both have race history. The one you see is mine. The other is a local race prep shop owners. BTW, I need body panels do you have a supplier? I'll make them if must but I'd rather not.

Once all this is flared it will look so nice.

**MeanRedSpider** · #42 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 05:02 AM

Here's the reply from the Gordini man

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Richard

If your man is looking for steel panels, it's the clubs he will need to search through, I sold off my steel panels last year as I made the switch to GRP.
He could check out Automobile,Compétition,Polyester,Sports mécaniques,F2000,Auto cross,Rallye cross,Atomobile 60-70 then go to catalogue then sixties Their stuff is very light and well made I have used them for wings and you can e-mail them in english come to think of it they do a nice set of autodelta bits for an alfa gta fancy a wide body????
cheers
steve

GTV6PASSION · #43 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 10:09 AM

Great project.

**akitaman** · #44 (**permalink**) 02-07-2009, 03:35 PM

Hi Ken, I will chat with you next week.

Richard- thanks for the info on the Gordini I will chase this one down and see what happens. As for the punch and flares, once you see the end process you will see that flaring near right angles really add to the rigidness in a lateral and vertical application. If you are able to access how a predetermined crumple zone is constructed in any given car you can really take advantage of that too.
One thing I should point out, with the skins removed I will be going deep in to the exoskeleton and stitch welding some of the old spot welds that you would normally not have access to. Our primary focus in this phase is to make the chassis as stiff as possible. This suspension system we just ordered will work at its best if the chassis is rigid as possible. We are going far away from the stiff "sport springs" people tend to buy for these cars. With the "has not evolved in thirty years shocks" that always get packaged with them. Our Alfa's have some much more potential then what we provide them. The system going on this car will keep the car very flat in the turns and more so that will give the driver the opportunity to take full advantage of the super hot twinspark motor we are having built.
Paying more attention to chassis stiffness was something we realized we needed to do when we built the Pan-Americana race car. The owner really knew some good idea's for improvement. Pair that up with ideas we were sharing with the engine builder (Wes Ingram) and you soon had ton of options. I promise, you will really enjoy this phase because it ends with the light weight high tech suspension installed.

**Berlinista** · #45 (**permalink**) 02-08-2009, 09:58 AM

will you be using coilovers front and rear? You could access Henk Thuis at Intrax for a really race proven set up, in years of Squadra Bianca racing in Europe. Multiple adjust, damp and rebound with the ability to use a soft , standard race spring.
Literally hundreds of 105 race cars have that setup here, and it is proven to be easy to understand, works well on a 105 and seriously brings down lap times.