Too much rust to restore? 66 Veloce - Alfa Romeo Bulletin Board & Forums

 12Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 01:25 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
pinshaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 253
Too much rust to restore? 66 Veloce

So I picked up this 66 Veloce yesterday, hoping to resurect it, but its pretty bad
rust in rockers, drivers floor gone, both valences, back window, trunk, doors, battery box support
missing a few things like all the glass, but that worries me less as parts can be found and I have a bunch already from a 67
I know its hard to tell in pics, but curious as to whether this is worth putting back or not

secondly, where is the best source for sheet metal?
classic alfa? OKP?
is Wolf still not good or just some pieces or have they making things better now?
anyone else stateside doing this?
like Classic but open
Attached Images
     

Peter Inshaw
49 Topolino, 63 Spider, 67 GTV, 91 Spider, 59 Touring Spider "AlfaOle"
pinshaw is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
pinshaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 253
more pics

some more, theyre ugly
Attached Images
     

Peter Inshaw
49 Topolino, 63 Spider, 67 GTV, 91 Spider, 59 Touring Spider "AlfaOle"
pinshaw is offline  
post #3 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 01:27 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
pinshaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 253
more
Attached Images
     

Peter Inshaw
49 Topolino, 63 Spider, 67 GTV, 91 Spider, 59 Touring Spider "AlfaOle"
pinshaw is offline  
 
post #4 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 01:28 PM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
pinshaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 253
more

last ones
Attached Images
    

Peter Inshaw
49 Topolino, 63 Spider, 67 GTV, 91 Spider, 59 Touring Spider "AlfaOle"
pinshaw is offline  
post #5 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 01:48 PM
Registered User
Gold Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: 592 Browns Trace Jericho, Vermont
Posts: 2,227
Garage
Seen people fix up way worse than yours!
pinshaw likes this.

AlfasRule!

1972 Montreal (The Pumpkin)
1975 Alfetta Sedan
1975 Alfetta Coupe Race Car
1982 Spider
1984 GTV-6
1984 GTV-6 Verde (GiGi)
1987 Milano (Da NEW Winta Beata)
1987 Milano Verde(Da kREDden Mobile)
alfasrule is online now  
post #6 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 01:55 PM
That's pretty rough. Give enough time, money and skill it could be done. Clearly there's enough rust to keep someone busy for a long time. I would look more at the overall structure. If it's straight and square then that would be a start. If it's bent and rusted...

As far as sheet metal goes, Classic Alfa has always been my go to. But I would at least give Centerline a shot. With as much sheetmetal as you're going to need they might be able to swing an attractive deal.

Quality wise, I would not consider Wolf for floors but they do have some patch panels for areas like the base of the A pillar and such that no one else has. The new owner sincerely wants to provide quality parts but without the proper stamping dies it would be hard to compete with the euros.

Cudos to you if you decide to tackle it!
pinshaw likes this.

- Rich D.
I like Alfas

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
gprocket is offline  
post #7 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 03:20 PM
Registered User
 
Alfajay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Juan Capistrano
Posts: 7,762
Quote:
Originally Posted by alfasrule View Post
Seen people fix up way worse than yours!
A big question is whether you are doing the work yourself, or paying a quality shop to do it. Paying a shop to restore this car would cost more than the price of a complete, less rusted example. So yes, while people have fixed up way worse than yours, that doesn't mean that it makes financial sense to do so.
pinshaw likes this.

Jay Mackro
San Juan Capistrano, CA

'63 Guilia spider
'65 Guilia Sprint GT
'67 Duetto
'91 164L
Alfajay is online now  
post #8 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 03:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 77
Standard British restoration ��
Jamieandthemag is offline  
post #9 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-16-2017, 05:15 PM
Senior Member
Gold Subscriber
 
not2old4toys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sisters, Oregon
Posts: 1,565
Saw that on Bay Area c/l and was tempted. Price was good, but having finished one I opted out. Looks liike a long term project. Given today's asking prices I would definitely work out a project list incorporating estimated cost, excluding your labor. If it works out, you have the time and some above basic skills then why not.
Cheers, Jon
not2old4toys is online now  
post #10 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-17-2017, 03:38 AM
Registered User
 
Tom Frasca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Putnam County, New York
Posts: 99
Garage
Giulia Gt rare every restoration is meaningful..
cuorealfa likes this.
Tom Frasca is offline  
post #11 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-17-2017, 06:09 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Irvine, CA and Vic, Aus.
Posts: 897
The Californian definition of extreme rust is clearly at a different level than many others! But I do agree with Jay, it really depends on whether you have the time and patience to do the work yourself. If you do then from the photos it certainly looks like it can be saved.

Then I guess you'd also want to ask yourself what level of finish do you want. You could spend a lot of time and money on body and trim, let alone the inevitable mechanical restoration.

Alister
1973 105 GTV (Alfa #6 of 19 owned)
Aggie57 is offline  
post #12 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-17-2017, 09:01 AM
Registered User
 
BH Classics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 98
Garage
luckily for you, most of the rusted areas are exactly the panels that are available from Classic Alfa and others. My extremely rusty GTV project was worse off that yours, and I spent about $2500 alone in sheet metal from Classic Alfa. So it's nothing that a good, experienced body shop cant handle. You're looking at a good $20-25K in body work (incl sheetmetal parts, paint) alone.

But figuring these cars are fetching upwards of $50K, it should be worth it in the end!
BH Classics is offline  
post #13 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-17-2017, 09:22 AM
Registered User
 
Alfajay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Juan Capistrano
Posts: 7,762
Quote:
Originally Posted by BH Classics View Post
But figuring these cars are fetching upwards of $50K, it should be worth it in the end!
Perhaps. The economic case would be stronger it was a complete car. But by the time pinshaw factors in the cost of replacing the missing trim and other parts (*), I'm not so sure.

*) Yea, I know that pinshaw has a '67 to cannibalize, but that doesn't mean he should consider those parts to be free.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aggie57
The Californian definition of extreme rust is clearly at a different level than many others!
No question, we tend to be snobs about rust (which isn't to say that there aren't any rusted Alfas here). But the fact that less-rusted cars are available locally is another reason why someone in San Jose should think hard before committing to such an ambitious restoration.
Aggie57 likes this.

Jay Mackro
San Juan Capistrano, CA

'63 Guilia spider
'65 Guilia Sprint GT
'67 Duetto
'91 164L

Last edited by Alfajay; 03-17-2017 at 09:29 AM.
Alfajay is online now  
post #14 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-17-2017, 09:29 AM
Registered User
 
BH Classics's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 98
Garage
True....true. Judging from the pics, he needs to replace the entire interior, all stainless trim, bumpers...getting $$$$
BH Classics is offline  
post #15 of 28 (permalink) Old 03-17-2017, 09:30 AM Thread Starter
Registered User
 
pinshaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 253
All good points,smart thing to do is lay it all out, note whats missing and needs replacing and see where it stands
key factor is how much can I tackle body wise vs having to have a metal guy take it all on
So i'll either find it another home or use it as a learning project and take it on long term.
thanks for the input everyone, I'll keep you posted either way.

Peter Inshaw
49 Topolino, 63 Spider, 67 GTV, 91 Spider, 59 Touring Spider "AlfaOle"
pinshaw is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Alfa Romeo Bulletin Board & Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome