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post #16 of 39 (permalink) Old 12-11-2016, 12:27 PM Thread Starter
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I cut the front off another very rough gt in CT and brought it back. This ones even worse then what I already had so its really just for reference and a few parts. I was hoping that the panel under the battery tray would be nice but no luck, at least it gives me a few more options.
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Wait a minute is that the green car sitting in the lower part of Keith Goring's 'back yard' ?

If so, my GTV presently wears its nose!!

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Wait a minute is that the green car sitting in the lower part of Keith Goring's 'back yard' ?

If so, my GTV presently wears its nose!!
Yes it is! Thanks for leaving me the bottom half
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Nose seen here (before paint) Bare Metal Rebuild Phase II: Blasting, Bodywork & Paint

Mr Jeffries from this board has the front and rear glass. He and I did a 'screwdriver special' and got both pieces out without too much drama. Glad that sad case has been a fruitful organ donor.

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I tried a several techniques for making these bottom curved pieces. I ended up breaking down a buying a shrinker stretcher and using a bead roller.
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start of the repair panels for the rad support
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I will state the obvious but fit the radiator with all its rubber shrouds before you consider work in this area complete. The metal on my car was a few mm too tight. I got the radiator in but I don't love the fit.

During the metalwork phase I probably did a loose fit and was satisfied but it ain't over til the radiator is screwed to its mounting bosses and in place...

And while we're talking about mistakes I made: fit the front roll bar while you are working in that area. Its a relatively close fit to the 'weeps' on the lower cross member closure and mine were a few mm off. My fault for not test fitting.

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Can anyone shed some light on the lack of outer headlight frames? these kinda look like half of the set up on a Berlina
Hi Jack, can shed no light on why you have such a outer light arrangement. Look for non factory welds or non factory headlight pot or a crude cut on the side of the inner head light frame or maybe someone knows that some GTVs came that way.

What I have seen is as the grey part pictured below. Where the inner and outer head light frames are all one piece per side.

The black parts are what is available in the after market, and are meant to be welded together I guess. I have these available for sale. $15 per piece plus shipping from Toronto.

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Can anyone shed some light on the lack of outer headlight frames? these kinda look like half of the set up on a Berlina
Welcome to the 68'
These don't have the outer frames that all the other GTVs have. The outer headlights mount in buckets that then screw into three tabs attached to the body sheet metal. I can see some of these tabs in your photos. The Black buckets are available still as are the rubber grommets that handle the wiring if you are missing them. The chrome trim rings will attach to the buckets as well and have cutouts to clear the tabs so make sure if you repair any tabs they are in the right place.

Which brings me to wiring. Lots of differences there as well. OKP is a good source for a correct harness. 68s are different in a few of the circuits. Feel free to ping me if you run into weird situations. I found a bunch of quirks and also re-upholstered those awesome buttress seats.

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Here are some photos when I redid the mounts.
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Welcome to the 68'
These don't have the outer frames that all the other GTVs have. The outer headlights mount in buckets that then screw into three tabs attached to the body sheet metal. I can see some of these tabs in your photos. The Black buckets are available still as are the rubber grommets that handle the wiring if you are missing them. The chrome trim rings will attach to the buckets as well and have cutouts to clear the tabs so make sure if you repair any tabs they are in the right place.

Which brings me to wiring. Lots of differences there as well. OKP is a good source for a correct harness. 68s are different in a few of the circuits. Feel free to ping me if you run into weird situations. I found a bunch of quirks and also re-upholstered those awesome buttress seats.
Well there you have it.

I Have had only 2, 69 model year GTVs one of which was built in late 1968. Maybe if I had looked at her pictures earlier I may have seen the same thing.

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NP. I can't count how many times during the restoration I realized I was dealing with something different.

Here are some others I noted unique to the 68' but probably not all:

Reverse threaded driver side lugs and front axle nut
Return spring on clutch slave (if original)
Single clip on grill heart
Single Circuit brakes with Lockheed Brake servo
GT rounded bumpers w/o overrides
Carello turn / park lights mounted on top of front bumper
Rear lights Altissimo or Carello small style with reflector in center
No fender signals
Inner headlights wired with mains on low
Outer headlights in buckets mounted to body tabs
Center console switch runs dash lights not fogs
Zagato buttress style front seats (adjustable headrest on passenger only)
1750 badge on the trunk lid (Alfa Milano badge recessed in trunk)
chrome rear license plate mount
dual Carello frog eye license plate lights
GT "cross over" airflow to carbs
coil on right wing
wiper bag on passenger firewall
wood hellebore steering wheel
Two vents on front cowl behind bumper
dual carbs: Weber/Dellorto/Solex
two dash turn signal indicators

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NP. I can't count how many times during the restoration I realized I was dealing with something different.

Here are some others I noted unique to the 68' but probably not all:

Reverse threaded driver side lugs and front axle nut
Return spring on clutch slave (if original)
Single clip on grill heart
Single Circuit brakes with Lockheed Brake servo
GT rounded bumpers w/o overrides
Carello turn / park lights mounted on top of front bumper
Rear lights Altissimo or Carello small style with reflector in center
No fender signals
Inner headlights wired with mains on low
Outer headlights in buckets mounted to body tabs
Center console switch runs dash lights not fogs
Zagato buttress style front seats (adjustable headrest on passenger only)
1750 badge on the trunk lid (Alfa Milano badge recessed in trunk)
chrome rear license plate mount
dual Carello frog eye license plate lights
GT "cross over" airflow to carbs
coil on right wing
wiper bag on passenger firewall
wood hellebore steering wheel
Two vents on front cowl behind bumper
dual carbs: Weber/Dellorto/Solex
two dash turn signal indicators
Some items on your list are also found on 69, 70 and 71 euro and Canadian spec 1750 GTVs. I cannot comment on the RHD 1750 GTVS. And what about the rearward mounted brackets for the special rear Trans mount.

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I will state the obvious but fit the radiator with all its rubber shrouds before you consider work in this area complete. The metal on my car was a few mm too tight. I got the radiator in but I don't love the fit.
Ditto. These radiators are a precision fit. I have two spares that won't fit my car that I will be selling off in time. One I refurbished before I noticed it was mm off.

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