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post #31 of 208 (permalink) Old 01-03-2016, 10:12 AM
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Hello RMM I don't have a thread on mine Im going by this wonderful alfa forum and threads by you and daveydog ,nothin to be embarrassed its guys like you that inspire others,Im also installing same 3MM floor deadener that you used,r you using insulation on top of 3MM deadener? sorry for all the questions Im trying to get as much info as I can,by the way your thread on headliner removal is very informative,and Im glad I took mine out the underneath was in horrible shape,I was going to use vinyl paint just to make it look good but after seeing your thread it gave me the motivation to replace it.sorry for all the rambling .again thanks

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Hey nothing to apologize about! Safe to say we all logged in here to ramble about old cars.

For the floors:
On top of the 3M sound deadener I am going to use the same double foil faced radiant foam insulation that I used in my headliner thread, but I won't install it until the car is almost finished as I'd likely rip/crush it in the interim.

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I'm ONLY using the foil faced foam as it is extremely light and in no danger of falling / causing the HL to sag. I had it installed for several years before I had the car media blasted at which point it was removed. I'll re-install it using 3M spray adhesive just like I did the first time. I'm fairly sure this is the stuff EZ Cool Automotive Insulation heat barrier and noise reduction for cars, trucks, classic cars, street rods and much more
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Scott - yes a picture would be great, it'd be interesting to see if anyone else has seen that caulk. It would be surprising to me if it were original, but who knows.
Ok, give me a few days on the pictures.

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I'm reassembling the door hardware which was removed by the painter. Can someone remind me whats going on with the strikes attached to the body @ B pillars?

A, B, C bolt thru the jamb to the threaded steel piece behind (more on that in a minute).

I see no threading on E and in fact it doesn't appear on the parts illustration either - but in looking at pictures of my car pre-disasembly, there is clearly a fastener there.

D on the other hand is clearly threaded on the female piece but obscured by the strike.

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Is there some means of attaching the female threaded piece to the body that I'm missing? I see no rivets or threads on this piece but there are sheet metal tabs that very loosely locate it. Is it simply pulled tight by the screws, like a big nut?

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..Is there some means of attaching the female threaded piece to the body that I'm missing? I see no rivets or threads on this piece but there are sheet metal tabs that very loosely locate it. Is it simply pulled tight by the screws, like a big nut?

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Exactly, the tabs simply hold the backing plate in position for assembly. Once the bolts are tightened things can't really go anywhere...it's essentially all sandwiched together to the B pillar.

I don't have the later GTV, so I can't say with certainty that there were 4 bolts originally. On the two previous 1750GTV's that I owned there were only three bolts. Here's mine now...

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That said, if 4 bolts are what is required, perhaps you need to switch the backing plate to the opposite side?

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That said, if 4 bolts are what is required, perhaps you need to switch the backing plate to the opposite side?
Brilliant idea... but didn't work =). Nonetheless I have the door hardware assembled (sans 4th bolt for now) and am proceeding to test fitting the door seals. I bought a set of aluminium door seal retaining channels and remembered their fit being slightly odd in places. Can someone take a pic of their car and tell me:

Do the channels ever show a gap as seen below, or do they hold tight to the flange on the body?

Is it right that the channel above the hinge overlaps the rain gutter molding slightly?
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you are doing fine. A slight gap is acceptable.
As the hinges: us versions have four bolt holes of which three are used as in the backing plate , the fourth has a pop rivet in the hole. Don't ask me why. I've a US GTV here with exactly your setup.


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That is a beefy pop rivet! Could have been a last minute DOT fix? Who knows. Thanks for confirming, I appreciate that. Don't like lingering mysteries.

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Just another confirmation for you in the thread below which shows the same striker.

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Daveydog's is a 74 GTV as well....so it would seem that the later GTV's definitely had the 4 bolts and as mentioned in the noted thread....there is a rivet installed in the fourth hole from what Daveydog stated.

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Thanks - great link - it points to the part of the process I'm in the middle of. Interesting that he mentions enlarging the holes in the channels exactly where I saw them pulling outboard from the flange. Tonight I'm going to check the horribly rusted original channels to see what type of relationship they have.

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Scott - yes a picture would be great, it'd be interesting to see if anyone else has seen that caulk. It would be surprising to me if it were original, but who knows.
Sorry for the delay in getting pictures.

You can see it on the gas tank flange. It's gray. At this point, I've scraped much of it off, but haven't done a detailed cleaning.

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Here's the caulk after I scraped it up with my fingernail.
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Can someone tell me what holds the European style front indicators to the body? I don't see any fastener sized holes on the bodywork nor parts diagram. Does the rear piece go behind the sheet metal?
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There is supposed to be a hole on the inside of the cutout. See this photo: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/atta...1&d=1198632345

Ignore the extra hole on my RH side ... that has since been welded up
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Appreciate it Pete.

You don't happen to know about the difference in bumpers from the USA (indicator under bumper) and Euro (indicator in body) cars do you? From browsing the internet and parts diagrams it seems to me there is a slight depression in the Euro bumper to allow the indicators to clear it - any other differences?

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There is supposed to be a hole on the inside of the cutout. See this photo: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/atta...1&d=1198632345

Ignore the extra hole on my RH side ... that has since been welded up
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No, no additional holes. The sidelights have specially shaped "washers" that hook behind the bodywork and thus fix them in place. I'll try to find a picture...
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