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Old 10-31-2004, 11:59 PM
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Winter Project

We don't seem to get a lot of posters on this particular forum; so, I thought I'd post a bit about my winter project (hopefully raising some interest).

As, some of you may know I picked up a 64 Giulia Spider a couple of months back. While the interior is in overall good shape the seat foam was disintegrating to the point were dust from it would fly around as we drove (cough cough). Therefore, I decided to do a bit of restoration, I removed the drivers seat and and I ordered the seat foam for both seats and a couple of new covers. While the seat is out I got up close and personal with the drivers side floor pan and then went over the rest of the floor.

I'm glad I did as I found a couple spots of rust. I enclosed a pic of what I origianally found. Looks small but after chasing the rust that crept under the paint I've almost had to redo the entire drivers side pan area (pictures to come).

Back behind the seat was another problem area. the P.O. had seat belt lugs welded in and never bothered to remove the burn paint (see right side of second photo). Both lug area's have bubbled paint and of course rust. Almost the whole section behind the drivers seat has to be taken care of. I have already removed the floor vinyl and started chasing the rust. Luckly all the corrosion is minor with only two small areas showing some pitting.

My fix will be to wire brush all loose paint and rust, prep for and spray Eastwoods red rust encapsulator. I will also smooth the pitting with por15 and/or machine epoxy.

Any and all suggestions or comments will be most welcome.
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Old 11-01-2004, 09:26 PM
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Just before and after wirebrushing.

I was planning on posting more as I go. I was hoping some posters would give input on their favorite rust proofing products and methods.

So far I'm planning to wire brush, clean, smooth pitted areas with epoxy, spray eastwoods rust encapsulator then fill all the screw holes with machinable epoxy and redrill.

I will then lay the flooring vinyl down and some fibirous jute in the floor pans.
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Old 11-15-2004, 01:55 PM
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A bit of progress on the project. Filled the minor pitting in with the metal 2 metal then primed and painted. Took the seats in to be redone, as I said before the foam was falling apart and getting everywhere.

Next, I start cleaning the other side and when this side paint dry I'll lay the flooring vinyl.
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Look'en Good George!
A word, for what it's worth: Mask off EVERYTHING you don't want painted.
The best restoration work always looks like less if there's overspray everywhere.

Osso's project looks sooo goood because he stripped out the car to the limit and paints every bit while removed from the car. Your not going that far but you only get the results of the work you put in! Take the extra time - you won't regret it!
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Old 11-15-2004, 02:32 PM
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Look'en Good George!
A word, for what it's worth: Mask off EVERYTHING you don't want painted.
The best restoration work always looks like less if there's overspray everywhere.

Osso's project looks sooo goood because he stripped out the car to the limit and paints every bit while removed from the car. Your not going that far but you only get the results of the work you put in! Take the extra time - you won't regret it!
Thank you,
The masking was removed for the picture sessions. I can assure you it covered quite a bit. This is just a winter project, the car will not be totally restored for some years where it will be totally stripped.
Lastly, when shooting small area's you must remove the masking close to the edge before your done. Then hit with the paint to feather it in, this hides or softens the hard line or edge.
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I think you mis-interpreted my comment. I wasn't inferring that you should do as does Osso.
I noticed the overspray on the pedal box bolts and on the rubber trim. It's the little bit of paint, here and there that detracts from the job. Your right about feathering and your project appears to be going well.
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No worries, no offense taken! Those areas were hit again with my feathering technic and will be cleaned up later. Too dangerous to clean up now, debri comes from everywhere and loves wet paint!
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Old 11-20-2004, 10:36 AM
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I have added a post with the seats I had rebuilt for this project over on the restore forum. Included is a question about the seat skins. If you have been following this project (or not) I welcome your comment.

Seat redo for a 64 Giulia Spider
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Just a photo update as I prepare to prime and paint the passenger side. This time I left most of the masking on for the pictures.
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Nice work George. I also like Eastwoods rust encapsulator. I use their OxySolve metal prep after grinding to acid etch the tiny pits that grinding or wire brushing will not get to.

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Thanks for the tip Tom and sorry for the late reply. We're just returning from a trip to Cancun.
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Nice work George. I also like Eastwoods rust encapsulator. I use their OxySolve metal prep after grinding to acid etch the tiny pits that grinding or wire brushing will not get to.

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Looks great George.

People forget that etching primer, though rust deterent, will let water go through it; make sure that you seal the primer asap to make sure it does not hold any moisture like George did. The paint will seal it; Alfa used that heavy tar based sound deadening that actually turns into a sponge when wet. I like to use instead, the 3M Self etching sound deading undercoat, that is paintable once dry.
I did not paint the floors in my Sprint; instead I installed heat shield on top of it. The car is now dead silent on the inside. (Also makes the wool rugs even more luxurious) Let me know what you think.

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Is that like the Dynamat you can get in most parts places? I hear that is good stuff.

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The 3M is like the dynamat, except that that shiny stuff is supposed to block heat. I don't think it actually works, though.
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