02-25-2008, 08:34 AM
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Jim,
Bluette is quite a rare color on an Alfa (I haven't seen any in person), and I'm set on painting my GT this same, and its original color. I was informed of the color's code from an Archivio Storico e-mail, but hadn't begun researching the correct recipe.
Thanks to Phil's initial post, I'm now seriously contemplating painting my 59 Sprint Bluette (its original color was Red, and is currently black). Would you mind posting a few photos of your Bluette Sprint here, and perhaps enlighten me with the paint recipes that you discovered? I was going to give Bill Gillham the code and have him figure it out, but your information will help us move along much quicker and accurately, I'm sure. Thanks very much.
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I've attached a photo of my '62 Giulia Sprint, but after all the cropping to get it to fit, etc., the color doesn't look quite the same as the original photo (there should be a touch of green in the color). I suppose it can still give you an idea as to how the Sprint looks in bluette. The paint recipe was found by the supplier to the bodyshop that did the work. I know that PPG and Spies Heckler both have files of the old paint recipes, and they were able to pull up the correct formula using the AR327 code. I'm sure that Bill Gillham has done a few bluette cars by now, too.
Jim
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02-25-2008, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by pathung
Jim,
Bluette is quite a rare color on an Alfa (I haven't seen any in person), and I'm set on painting my GT this same, and its original color. I was informed of the color's code from an Archivio Storico e-mail, but hadn't begun researching the correct recipe.
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From what I've seen of original GT's with bluette paint, it is very slightly more towards blue with a hint of gray than the earlier bluette (AR327) which was blue with a hint of green. I think both "bluette" formulas may come up under the AR327 code, which can be confusing. Or at least it confused the painter on my Sprint when they mixed a batch to paint the doors and found that one door did not match the rest of the car (don't ask why they painted the doors, hood and trunk lid separately on different days). So, if you want your GT to get a close match to its original "bluette", see if you get two formulas to come up for the AR327 code (assuming that's what the archives gave you as a code), and do not choose the formula with green in it.
Jim
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02-25-2008, 07:42 PM
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Jim,
What a gorgeous looking Sprint in Bluette! What color interior does it come in? Cream, I hope.
Archivio did in fact confirm that my GT was painted AR327, and as you stated, it seems to have a more bluish hue than your Sprint. The photo below is that of my GT's trunk. Those ARE worms, by the way - the day I went to pick up this car.
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02-25-2008, 08:10 PM
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Patrick,
Sorry to disappoint, but the interior is dark blue vinyl, with two-tone blue vinyl seats (dark blue sides and back panel, medium blue seating surfaces). And when you restore the GT, will you use OEM (Italian) worms, or go domestic?
Jim
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02-25-2008, 08:49 PM
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Patrick,
...And when you restore the GT, will you use OEM (Italian) worms, or go domestic?
Jim
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02-26-2008, 04:19 AM
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Hi Pat
We compounded & polished the glove box lids & from what I can recall, Colin took the lid into the paintshop, the shop guy "eyeballed" the lid & mixed up 5 litres of "Bluette", tinting as he went along, until he was happy that the swatch matched the lid.
The result is about 95+% to the original, which seeing as the old pigments no longer exisit, is about as close as anyone is *really* going to get. Anyway, even original paint varied from batch to batch & year to year.
Ciao
Greig
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02-27-2008, 06:33 AM
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It would be very helpful (as indicated by this thread) if whatever color information that is available were collected in one spot. Also, if any scans of color samples were made with a standard color chart in the scan, so that individual scanner color variations can be compensated for. I thought there was a color chart somewhere on the Yahoo 750-101 board once but I've never actually found it.
That said, Phil's color chart is very helpful and would be great way to start Color Central.
My '63 Sprint was built in Gardenia White (not on Phil's chart) and I'm curious to know what that color really is. Some PO redid it in Bertone Red and I haven't changed it back. One of those darker blues would be nice, though.
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02-27-2008, 05:30 PM
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I started to do scans of the colors on my color page. All you had to do was mouse over the color and the paint chip would pop up. Because of life committments I never got around to finishing the web page. there are a LOT of color chips. Now my website is down until I can figure out how to get the files transfered up to the new website using Adobe GoLive. It has its own FTP program and its driving me nuts!
I do have alot of paint codes that I have gathered over the years in addition to the help of two others from the BB. Maybe this summer I can make that a dedicated project to get all the codes posted from the other two.
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02-28-2008, 11:11 PM
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I have a 59 101 Sprint with the original Bleu tornado paint from the factory on it. It buffed out quite well for 50 year old paint. However, there are areas that need touch up. Is it possible to feather in an area of new paint with the old?
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02-28-2008, 11:17 PM
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I personally would say no, but then again I am not a painter.  Most likely you will have to do a hand tint to get as exact of a match as you can. As I know it, Glasurite was a lacquer paint, and it might be hard to find lacquers any more as they take alot of work to put on correctly. I could be wrong on all of this...so better to embarrass my self now than later.  |
02-29-2008, 08:04 AM
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I have a 59 101 Sprint with the original Bleu tornado paint from the factory on it. It buffed out quite well for 50 year old paint. However, there are areas that need touch up. Is it possible to feather in an area of new paint with the old?
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02-29-2008, 12:53 PM
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Can you post a photo here? I'd like to compare it to the shade of Alfaduc's (Jim's) car; I understand your might be a bit faded. Thanks.
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Jim's color looks very close to original, so it's difficult to tell if the paint on mine is faded. But, that brings up an interesting question: How original (color-wise) can old paint on a car be?
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02-29-2008, 08:27 PM
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Jim's color looks very close to original, so it's difficult to tell if the paint on mine is faded. But, that brings up an interesting question: How original (color-wise) can old paint on a car be?
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Can someone post a picture of an Amber white Sprint? It's suddenly of great interest to me!
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03-18-2008, 08:55 PM
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Is this amber white?
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