06-29-2009, 03:46 AM
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Patrick,
It is one of the cars in post 265.
According to our documentation files, the chassis number AR 1495.04188 and the engine number AR 1315.31313originally correspond to an Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider Veloce, manufactured on the 30th May 1958 and sold on the 20th June 1958 to Hoffman Motor Car Co., New York, U.S.A. The body colour is sky blue (celeste).
The car is currently being refurbished/restored. The car was an original driver from California imported to France by the p.o. who lived in LA, so I bought it and drove her back home ( over a 1000 Km). It is matching numbers and all its parts are original, never has been involved in an accident that requires major repairs, just small dings in nearly every panel .. To ensure it long term survival in the Netherlands, I decided to take it back to the bare metal, and check it condition…it was perfect no rust at all. The car has been repainted in its original color and is now being reassembled.
regards,
Jelle
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06-29-2009, 10:49 AM
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A little more info about my 2 Giulietta's. 1495F04187 Spider Veloce. Build date June 4 1958 Originally sold to Hoffman Motor CO June 20,1958. Original color Black/ red interior. Being restored Black/tan interior Purchased by me in October,1964 in Sunnyvale,CA. Probably 3rd. owner
1493.05149 750B Sprint Mfg date 7/25/1957 Sold to first owner Charles Mandatory 8/31/57 in Italy. Still registered in his name. Original color Grigio Chiarissmo. Will be dark red with grey interior. Under restoration. 1400 750 Veloce engine. DCOE carbs
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06-29-2009, 01:38 PM
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06-30-2009, 08:40 PM
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New owner needs info on Giulietta purchased
Great forum and very helpful in the future for me. I have just bought a 1962 Alfa Romea Giulietta Spider with a serial number AR 171685 and would love to know the history on the car please.
The ownership says 1963 but I believe its a 62. The car is unrestored in original running condition, been certified and driven now. Paint is original with nicks, scratches etc. and faded. No rust, California car I understand. Some tell me to leave it that way as its only original once.
Should I get it painted at a regular auto shop.?
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06-30-2009, 11:24 PM
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Welcome MIKE! Leave it as is and maintain / preserve unless it has "issues".
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07-01-2009, 05:30 AM
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Hi Patrick.
Here another Alfa Sprint 1962 to the registry:
Body AR352061
Engine AR00112*02473.
Car produced in July 21 1962 and sold in July 28 1962 to
Bari Italy.
The car now is in Caracas Venezuela.
Regards
Mario Di Nardo
Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder 1957
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint 1959 Allegerita Clone
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint 1962 1600
Alfa Romeo GTC 1965
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07-01-2009, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Bondy
... I have just bought a 1962 Alfa Romea Giulietta Spider with a serial number AR 171685 and would love to know the history on the car please.
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07-01-2009, 06:46 PM
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Thank you I will try that. I really cannot go to the registry because I don't really have the other information.
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07-14-2009, 09:19 PM
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1961 Giulietta Spider
Ok the spider I have is;
170834 1961 Giulietta Spider 1300cc
Engine 00102*25577
She is red and needs work. Just going to get her started and properly stored and work on her as I can.
Russell Wilcoxon
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07-14-2009, 10:38 PM
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I've added your car, Russell. Does it have black seats?
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07-14-2009, 11:43 PM
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Yes she has black seats, mildly accented with old duct tape. Dad had no shame.  |
07-15-2009, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Bondy
I have just bought a 1962 Alfa Romea Giulietta Spider ......Paint is original with nicks, scratches etc. and faded.....Should I get it painted at a regular auto shop.?
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If by "a regular auto shop" you mean the people who replace fenders on minivans, then you really really don't want those clowns touching a vintage car. You won't believe the damage a "regular" shop can do to an old car, and subjecting a previously unrestored car to that treatment would be criminal. As an example, those guys won't mask anything - visualize your wiring harness, voltage regulator, steeering column, etc all painted body color.
Now, if you really want to get the car repainted, spend some time locating a shop that does restoration work. Tell us where you're located, and perhaps someone on the board can recommend a shop. Expect to spend a lot of time (and/or money) disassembling the car prior to paint and reassembling after.
Before repainting the car, you might have a detailer try to buff the paint to address the fading. Sometimes those guys can work miracles. As with body shops, there detailers who are artists and others who are hacks, so ask around before chosing one.
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'63 Guilia spider
'65 Guilia Sprint GT
'67 Duetto
'91 164L
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07-15-2009, 11:58 AM
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Before repainting the car, you might have a detailer try to buff the paint to address the fading. Sometimes those guys can work miracles. As with body shops, there detailers who are artists and others who are hacks, so ask around before chosing one.
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They have a touch that can buff out scratches, water marks and swirls. The new waxes, polishes and compounds can bring out the best in old paint if there is anything left to work with. Most likely they will start with a good wash, then clay bar the paint, buff out and polish. They most likely will keep the car a day or two.
Dings and dents can be worked out by a company called Dent Pro or something similar like Dent Wizard etc.. These trained experts work for dealerships traveling around removing dents and dings in body work with out dismantling the car. Their arsenal of tools is amazing and where they can get into a car with them to remove dents/dings.
There are also companies that go to dealerships and just work repainting bumpers and small spots on cars, for a nominal fee without having to paint a whole car.
You will be amazed at how beautiful the car will look.
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07-15-2009, 10:02 PM
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I have to agree with both Jay and Chris. My Ausca spider still has about 85% or more of its original paint, with the help of Skip McCabe of McCabe Automotive Restorations, Skip deals in vintage Ferrari restoration as well as other classics. My car has had a life with me for a few years as a race car, complete with the bumps and dings that come with that life. I have always taken the best care of this car that I possibly could, but 44 year old paint is still 44 year old paint. In some kinds of daylight, the OEM paint does display many of the colors of the rainbow, but the car still shows well in the concours, particularly as an unrestored race car. Be sure to treat the old beauties to all the attention they have earned!
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07-20-2009, 04:45 PM
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The old paint was Glasurit lacquer and it was brilliant when new, but with time lacquers fade. There might not be enough "thickness" to the paint to be able to color buff and work out the fading. Any good cleaning might take it down to the primer and then you are left with two choices, leave it the way it is or undertake a paint job. Old cars have a certain patina to them, but there comes a time when you have to make a decision. For me I made my choice years ago of stripping the car down to bare metal. A divorce and trying to save the car from going to the wrecker under her lawyers insistence I remove the car asap from the property, has left me with the car in my garage, in the same state as it was...bare metal. If you start, be sure you are committed to finishing the project.
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