Giulietta/Giulia Spider Register - Page 10

Robert S · #**136** (**permalink**) 04-10-2008, 10:04 AM

I've decided to begin work on my '65 Spider. It has been sitting for about 15 years. My goal is to make the car a very nice driver. I can see that mine is a very late production model (the last one on the register so far). The car will refurbished in its original colors light yellow/green with black interior. Thanks for all of the resources you provide with the BB.
-Robert
'65 Spider
'84 GTV6

Here is the info about my care from Archivio Storico:

Dear Mister Sentinery,

with reference to your request we are informing you as follows.

According to our documentation files, the chassis number AR 392403 originally corresponds to an Alfa Romeo Giulia Spider, manufactured on the 16th November 1964 and sold on the 7th June 1965 to Alfa Romeo Inc. Newark, U.S.A.
The body colour is yellow, with black interiors.

Yours, Sincerely,

Marco Fazio

**velocedoc** · #**137** (**permalink**) 04-10-2008, 05:45 PM

Yellow? Must have been a factory ordered color. I know of Straw as being an optional color on 101 cars. Anyone know of which yellow this might be? Should be a beautiful color, and something you don't always see.

GTD · #**138** (**permalink**) 04-10-2008, 08:02 PM

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Anyone know of which yellow this might be?

Robert S · #**139** (**permalink**) 04-10-2008, 09:35 PM

The color appears to be more of an almost mint green. I saw one Alfa owner in the UK describe it as primrose yellow. If anyone can help me identify this color and the modern paint codes, it would be greatly appreciated. I'll attach an image of a car that I found on the net that is the same color.
-Robert

Robert S · #**140** (**permalink**) 04-11-2008, 01:53 AM

Just heard back from Alfa. It is AR105 Giallo Paglierino.
-R

**velocedoc** · #**141** (**permalink**) 04-11-2008, 07:03 AM

Paglierino translates to "straw"

This is a very pretty color on the spider and worthy of the efforts to put it back to this color as there are very few like this. I only know of one and it is in Los Angeles and was a special ordered car from the factory.

GTD · #**142** (**permalink**) 04-11-2008, 09:36 AM

Robert
Giallo Paglierino it is then!

My brother had a Giulia Spider in this same color; it's close to Ivory/Avorrio but just a shade nearer Yellow/Giallo.

Be careful using numbers and color names when sourcing the paint.

DuPont shows a formula in the 1972 catalog but refers to the color as:Ivory/Straw AR 103 - with a darker Alt. formula?

ALFA, in this 1965 Bulletin, mentions the number (20105), but names it:Indian Ivory.

Glasurit doesn't show it in their 1965 catalog but in later editions seems to change the name and number randomly. Notice that, 1965 Giallo Cina AR104 - displayed earlier, later becomes:Avorrio Indiano AR 104. Conversely, Giallo Cina becomes AR 105 - with no change in formula!

**tubut** · #**143** (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GTD

Glasurit doesn't show it in their 1965 catalog but in later editions seems to change the name and number randomly. Notice that, 1965 Giallo Cina AR104 - displayed earlier, later becomes:Avorrio Indiano AR 104. Conversely, Giallo Cina becomes AR 105 - with no change in formula!

GTD · #**144** (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 10:25 AM

There is no doubt that the formulas (and colors) are different.
My point is: the name or number changes randomly even though it is supplied by the same maufacturer.

Understanding that different expressions are used to convey meanings in different languages; why would a paint manufacturer change its name or number for the same color? Are not these names used for the purpose of identifying colors?

**tubut** · #**145** (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GTD

There is no doubt that the formulas (and colors) are different.
My point is: the name or number changes randomly even though it is supplied by the same maufacturer.

Understanding that different expressions are used to convey meanings in different languages; why would a paint manufacturer change its name or number for the same color? Are not these names used for the purpose of identifying colors?

GTD · #**146** (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 12:17 PM

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as the Glasurit web site now shows the correct codes

Pat Garrett · #**147** (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 12:22 PM

Pat, Here is info requested;
390392
1965
Giulia Veloce
B. 30 March 1965-sold to Alfa Romeo Inc. Newark m USA
Body is red with black interiors.
Garage find.
Resurrected ( not restored)

**pathung** · #**148** (**permalink**) 05-09-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat Garrett

Pat, Here is info requested;
390392
1965
Giulia Veloce
B. 30 March 1965-sold to Alfa Romeo Inc. Newark m USA
Body is red with black interiors.
Garage find.
Resurrected ( not restored)

Alfaowner · #**149** (**permalink**) 05-10-2008, 06:07 AM

Patrick:

Here's info on my Alfa Spider:

1495 10674 1960 Spider Normale B. 13 Aug 1960 Older restoration. Slightly modified for vintage racing. (Orig. AR716 grey/red, now red/black) Still original engine – 1315.16774. Originally sold to Thomson & Taylor, Bifleet, England although it is LHD. (Curious they would do that.)

Currently has tail lights from Giulietta ti. No idea how they got there. 13 Aug 1960 was a Saturday. A Saturday in August in Italy? Anything could have happened. I won’t know with any certainty until I strip the paint. But, I can’t detect any bondo, welding seams or other indication that they were added after the fact. While they look strange, here in Florida, the bigger the tail lights, the better. Too many dumb, inattentive drivers.

Norm Sippel