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i would never have the patience or the time to go through a full restoration like this.
how much would a car like this go for?
40k? 50k?
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1992 alfa romeo spider veloce, 15k milesalfazagato;505428]Yes, about that price I would think...but its not for sale!
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 Whose car are we talking about? Who said I wouldn't sell it? Offer me a hundred grand and see what I do!  And, according to Keith Martin Sports Car Market Auction results it lists the "59 to '62 Giulietta Veloce Spider at a low of $40K and a high of $60K. 
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The owner of "My Veloce restoration nearing completion".
George
P.S. Here are some shots I took last week on a short drive up the Columbia Gorge.
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Sorry if I am the culprit.
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your car is absolutely stunning.
i eventually want one in as good of a shape as yours and just wanted to do it the easy way and buy one completely restored (graphite grey / red though).
looking forward to continuing flowing your thread.
thanks.
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03-10-2008, 05:14 PM
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didnt mean to hijack it - sorry.
your car is absolutely stunning.
i eventually want one in as good of a shape as yours and just wanted to do it the easy way and buy one completely restored (graphite grey / red though).
looking forward to continuing flowing your thread.
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 The problem is I am way too picky. I always find something I would have done differently. I worked on restoring mine 6 hrs a day, 5 or 6 days a week for 14 months. And I took every switch, every nut and bolt, every item apart and replatted, repaired, and rebuilt it. So yes I did it the hard way with no shortcuts.
But it was a labor of love.
Good luck in your pursuits.
Cheers,
George
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03-10-2008, 08:49 PM
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I agree with George, restoring a car from the ground up just so you know every single nut and bolt on it; it's a lotta fun!
I work on my car one day out of the week (if I'm lucky), so the car should take me nearly 5 times as long as it took George to complete his; I thus project a project duration of 75 months, or about 6 years. Gasp. I'm going too fast! I must be skimping somewhere...
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Patric,
Then you must be very good at covering up any corners cut!
Both yours and this one looks absolutely stunning!
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I agree with George, restoring a car from the ground up just so you know every single nut and bolt on it; it's a lotta fun!
I work on my car one day out of the week (if I'm lucky), so the car should take me nearly 5 times as long as it took George to complete his; I thus project a project duration of 75 months, or about 6 years. Gasp. I'm going too fast! I must be skimping somewhere...
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Here are some shots of the top frame before it went to the powdercoater last week. I just got another batch of clear zinc back from the plater. The bulk of it is for a 1967 Triumph Bonneville (motorcycle) I am restoring for a client and I threw in a handfull of misc. Giulietta convertible top hardware and some new, correct Veloce 10 mm valve cover nuts I just got from S Africa.
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03-11-2008, 07:27 PM
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And you remember which bolt goes where? Amazing.
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And, according to Keith Martin Sports Car Market Auction results it lists the "59 to '62 Giulietta Veloce Spider at a low of $40K and a high of $60K.
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Congratulations on a beautiful job George!
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Top Frame bolts
How did you get the top fram bolts out? I tried everything that I could think of, but the peening on the end of the bolts kept them in there super tight. I asked around, and was told to powder coat the top frame while assembled.
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How did you get the top fram bolts out? I tried everything that I could think of, but the peening on the end of the bolts kept them in there super tight. I asked around, and was told to powder coat the top frame while assembled.
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On another subject, what years did they use this scrip badging on the spider? Did it go on the trunk?
Cheers,
George
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I hope I’m not being too nosey, but I really like your Giulietta Spider Veloce and would like to know how much they cost, in general.
What would one pay for one that is in general good condition?
Ball-Park numbers, how much did it cost for your restoration (not counting all of your hard work at home)?
It is absolutely perfect!
It appears to be better than when it came off the factory assembly line. I can’t imagine putting that much work into something and then driving it around in a dirty world. I admire your ability to take it out and use it like it was intended. Envy is too small a word. Congratulations on your hard work and vision.
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George
That script is a German aftermarket invention - ALFA never used that.
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Good question. I only removed 6 bolts, the ones that are the heads are visible from inside the car looking at the frame.
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Thanks for looking and your kind comps.
George
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