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11-24-2007, 08:18 PM
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Hello people, I've made some changes to the registry post in this thread (first post of this thread), requesting additional information from each owner, if available. Please look it over again and see if you have any other piece of information concerning your car that you'd like to submit. Thanks.
Secondly, we need more photos!!!
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11-25-2007, 09:27 AM
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A few pictures of my lightweight 1957 Veloce. Patrick has included the details in the first post.As it is an old "racer" I am slowly changing it in a more street friendly and comfortable car.
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11-25-2007, 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GTA2
A few pictures of my lightweight 1957 Veloce. Patrick has included the details in the first post.As it is an old "racer" I am slowly changing it in a more street friendly and comfortable car.
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Hello GTA2!
Fantastic Sprint! i like the colour...
Very beautiful!
Congratulations!
Regards from Madeira Island
Marco Pestana
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11-25-2007, 04:06 PM
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GTA2,
You car is very nice looking. I am building a 101 in hopes of looking similar for vintage racing. I admire how clean your car looks.
What makes a "lightweight" so?
David
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11-25-2007, 06:30 PM
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GTA2,
I dig your car. Is it a 1300 or a 1600? Its sweet either way. I kinda think I need one.
Will
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11-26-2007, 04:20 AM
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Hi Pat
Great to see your 750/101 register getting such support. Thanks for organising this, it's a champion effort.
My 1962/63 101 series Giulia 1600 Sprint's details are:
Chassis AR 382004
Body AR 6525468
Engine AR 00526*A5547 (Not sure whether this is original or later 105 motor as it has dual Webers)
Apparently it is one of 6 cars converted to RHD by Ruddspeed in the UK before being delivered to Australia for Alec Mildren Motors. Mildren was Australia's main Alfa dealer in the 1960s and was well supported by the Alfa factory, successfully running a Giulia TI Super, a Giulia GTA and a TZ2using Roberto Bussinello, Frank Gardner and Kevin Bartlett as drivers.
The Sprint was originally dark blue with grey interior but is now red with fawn/bone interior. It came with documentation including the 1966 purchase receipt of its second owner, who bought it for $3,190 AUD, a not inconsiderable sum then.
It has some non-original touches such as the vinyl strip on the dash instead of paint and needs tidying here & there - see the angle of the rear bumper - but it's a daily driver (well, several times weekly at least) and I hope to run it in hillclimbs next year.
I've never had a car that commands so much affection from people of all ages - it really makes people smile.
Here on the North coast of New South Wales we're lucky to have a lot of Alfa-friendly roads twisting and climbing through the hinterland behind Byron Bay, Australia's hippy/surfie/backpacker capital, and a small band of Alfisti is keeping the cross & serpent flag flying.
Ciao,
Geoff
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64 Giulia TI Super replica (still building after all these years...)
62 Giulia Sprint 101
Fiat 128SL (a bit dead)
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1967 Giulia Super daily driver
1966 Giulia Super (part rebuilt)
1972 Berlina 2000 parts car (LSD donated to TI Super project)
1969 1750 GTV (oops, forgot about that one)
1965 GTA (OK, it was a slot car..)
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11-26-2007, 06:20 AM
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Beautiful car Geoff,
Thanks for sharing the photos. I'm curious, it looks like you might have three point seat belts installed. Where does the shoulder belt attach to the chassis?
Thanks!
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11-27-2007, 04:04 AM
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1600 Giulia Sprint carburation
A follow-up question: did 1600s still run Solexes?
Patrick,
To answer your question, yes, they did and the Solex fitted to the 1600 101 engines was C 32 PAIA 5, 1300 101 engines had 35 APAIG.
Dennis
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11-27-2007, 07:47 AM
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Thanks, Dennis.
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11-28-2007, 03:42 AM
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Beautiful car Geoff,
I'm curious, it looks like you might have three point seat belts installed. Where does the shoulder belt attach to the chassis?
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Hi Dave
The belt mounts behind the shoulder just below the rear quarter window about halfway along (top pic); to the floor just ahead of the crossmember that forms the front lip of the parcel shelf (middle pic); and both belts mount centrally to the transmission tunnel (bottom pic).
The side floor mounting spot is between the chassis rail and the mount for the rear radius arm, and is reinforced with a piece of 3mm angle steel.
Hope this helps
Geoff
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Now:
64 Giulia TI Super replica (still building after all these years...)
62 Giulia Sprint 101
Fiat 128SL (a bit dead)
Then:
1967 Giulia Super daily driver
1966 Giulia Super (part rebuilt)
1972 Berlina 2000 parts car (LSD donated to TI Super project)
1969 1750 GTV (oops, forgot about that one)
1965 GTA (OK, it was a slot car..)
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11-28-2007, 07:51 PM
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Thanks Geoff!
That helps a lot. I was thinking of trying to reinforce the area above the quarter window for the shoulder strap mount, but under the window looks like a better idea. If it's back far enough like yours, I guess the downward pressure on the shoulder won't be too much.
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11-29-2007, 02:47 AM
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If it's back far enough like yours, I guess the downward pressure on the shoulder won't be too much.
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Hi again Dave
It's not ideal - sometimes it numbs my arm - not sure whether it's pressure on a shoulder nerve or whether it cuts off the circulation. This is less likely to be a problem with your car as the RHD conversion leads to the steering wheel being slightly off-centre (towards the left, or centre of the cabin) as a result of the RHD footwell being about 2.5 ins (6.5cm) narrower than the left. Yes, the transmission tunnel is actually offset from centre in the Giulietta, which is fine if it's still LHD, because it gives the driver more space. This had the added bonus of placing the passenger's left knee (undoubtedly female at that time) closer to the red-blooded Italian driver's gear-changing (free) hand. Alfas, designed with passion...
Anyway, the result of this is that the driver in a RHD car sits with legs slightly twisted towards the centre of the car (but not as much as in a Porker 911, where the twist results from the front wheel arches hogging the footwell space).
Still, I'd rather put up with the occasional tingly arm and have the 3-point belt hold me back from that steering column if it ever decides to move backwards... which I fervently hope it doesn't.
Ciao,
Geoff
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Now:
64 Giulia TI Super replica (still building after all these years...)
62 Giulia Sprint 101
Fiat 128SL (a bit dead)
Then:
1967 Giulia Super daily driver
1966 Giulia Super (part rebuilt)
1972 Berlina 2000 parts car (LSD donated to TI Super project)
1969 1750 GTV (oops, forgot about that one)
1965 GTA (OK, it was a slot car..)
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11-29-2007, 05:58 PM
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Additional Information
My (Confortevole) was originally white in color, repainted sometime in the late '60s to "resale red."
An interesting side-note to the history buffs out there: my dad said that the car has three-pad drums on it, although it apparently shouldn't according to the year. Perhaps this is part of the conversion to the "Confortevole" model?
My dad and I are going to pull it out of the barn on December 28th and 29th. Pictures and hopefully video will follow then.
Dan Davis
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11-29-2007, 06:05 PM
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Bolt spacing on wheels
Please email your responses to ddavis11@aug.edu
I cannot access forums from my work computer.
I have a bunch of old 12" wheels from my Datsuns around the house that I plan on using to help the car roll out of the barn. They are 13x5" with a 4x4.5" bolt spacing and RWD offset. I understand that the '58 Veloces used 15" rim? I just need them to fit to tow it about 50 feet and up on blocks. 
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Dan Davis
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12-03-2007, 10:03 AM
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Patrick,
Thanks for revising the listings on the sprints. One point though my car was prepared by Conrero, not just the engine as I originally thought, but the chassis too with all sort of goodies which I am just starting to unearth. It was named by Jean Rolland as a Conrero Special according to the entry papers he signed for the races! Will keep you posted.
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