Colour: Tornado Blue

[Carlos Vasconce]

Instead of "butting" in to someonelse's thread, I'll use this one to ask for some help... and to start "reporting" on its restoration activity!

There's a number on the shell of the "Tornado Blue" Giuliette as shown on the first attached photo. Would anybody know what it refers to?

The other pics refer to the state of the car at the moment, having already begun dismantling it...

Thanks for any forthcoming help...

Carlos Vasconcelos

[tubut]

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Originally Posted by Carlos Vasconce There's a number on the shell of the "Tornado Blue" Giuliette as shown on the first attached photo. Would anybody know what it refers to?

[AlfistiSA]

There should be two numbers on the shell of a Giulietta Sprint, one is the chassis number 1493*XXXXX stamped into the firewall....... but then you all knew that.

The other is stamped on the top RHS leading edge of the scuttle & on this car should start with "65XXXX" this is the Bertone Body number, which was used by Bertone to keep track of units built before they had chassis numbers.

The body number does not really tell us anything as Bertone's records have not survided the passage of time, but John de Boer is compiling a list of cars which includes this number, so hopefully if we can get enough people to divulge the chassis / motor / body number of their cars, we may begin to get a clearer picture of what / why / how the numbers correspond.

If anyone on this list wants to add their car details to John's "Italian Car Register", they can either contact him via the BB or mail / PM the info to me.

Ciao
Greig

[Carlos Vasconce]

I am sorry, but a problem with my PC (that I'm trying to solve) didn't allow the selected images to go with th post. Hopefully the problem will bw solved shortly and then I can post those.

Tubut/Ruedi, as AsfistiSA/Greig says, the number is "stamped on the top RHS leading edge of the scuttle".

AlfistiSA/Greig, you got it completly right and the number on my car is *659450*. The other nrs are: AR1493*10060 (chassi) and AR1315*08822 (engine). It is a Giulietta 750B manufactured in 1959 and imported into Portugal that same year. Maybe John de Boer can pick this info and add it to his register.

Thanks Greig for the explanation and I will be posting those pics soon...

Regards
Carlos

[Carlos Vasconce]

I did have recently lots of trouble with my PC... but they are sorted and here go the promised photos as well as some more of them showing the evolution of the work done on the car!
The engine and gearbox are nearly out at the momment...
Any comments???...

Regards
Carlos

[Carlos Vasconce]

It has been a while since I posted anything about this restoration... but it is progressing, even if a bit slowly at times.

The body is now completely stripped of any parts and before beginning the task of rebuilding all the mechanics and interiors, I'll have to get it ready to go for a sandblast treatment, which means stripping all the paint and putty from the outer body panels first!... I feel tired just thinking about it (I've done already one door...)!!!

I would however like to ask some help to diagnose the situation with the door hinges (which by the way we have not managed to undo...the pins won't come off...): would anybody be able to post some photos of the hinges similar to the photos attached but of restored car? I doubt that they are correctly just welded in place... no screws or anything like that!!??...

I'll be very thankful for any help or suggestion on this matter... and on the matter of the matter of body paint stripping and rust clearing...

Thanks in advance!

[yvesmontreal]

I owned another "Tornado Blue" Sprint (22088) and the color around the radio opening in your post #8 looks very much like your car's original color.

Tornado blue is a medium blue-gray, very similar to a popular color on German cars of the period (VW' Porsche, MBenz). Bluette seems to be close but not identical.

[Carlos Vasconce]

Thank you yvesmontreal. You are completely correct. I can say this now because I have, since then, managed to get my hands on proper sample of "Tornado Blue" and its composition, courtesy of a major paint company in Portugal (please see my post #29).

Best regards
Carlos

[concept 101]

Carlos,

Why wouldn´t the pins in your door hinges come off? I suppose you have tried to knock them out both from the upside and downside and it should work, provided they are not too crooked. I had quite a problem with my right door hinge pin ones, but finally after couple of houres it budged.

Dennis

[AlfistiSA]

Hi Carlos

Dennis is 100% correct, if the pins are not bent, they will come out.

I had success with careful use of heat / penetrating oil / heat / penetrating oil / more heat & a large hammer & pin punch.

What has also worked for me in the past, was to use a long piece of solid bar & a hydraulic jack, where I put the one end of the bar under the pin, the other onto the jack on the garage floor & gently lifted one side of the vehicle up a bit using the hinge pin - use of heat & penetrating oil with a permanent lift from the jack soon moved the pin.

Ciao
Greig

[Carlos Vasconce]

Thanks Dennis and Greig.

I can try again but are the hinges welded in place or are they supposed to be fixed with screws allowing for some adjustment?... as you can see these are welded in place...

Thanks again for any advice and any photos on this matter.

Best regards
Carlos

[concept 101]

Carlos,

The hinge consists of two halfs, one that is FACTORY welded to the body and the other one welded to the door. There is no adjustment screw on the hinge exept the one in the door bottom front. To be able to take the door of the car, you will have to knock out the pin that goes through the hinge. Don´t forget to take of the door catch before that (but that I can see from your picture you´ve already done).

Dennis

[GTD]

Marco
Do you have an air hammer as pictured?
Used with the right tip, this should allow you to remove the pins.

[Carlos Vasconce]

Thanks GTD
We'll try that...

Carlos