Giulietta Sprint Veloce 1st series - Page 4

**George J** · #46 (**permalink**) 02-13-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Twin cam

Just noticed this thread and am interested in the weight question re early SVs. The published weight of an SV lightweight is 770kg yet the weight for an SZ is 765kg. I cannot believe that a lightweight Sprint Veloce is only 5kg heavier given the heavier trim, the greater wheelbase, only some alloy panels etc etc.

My SZ actually weighs 810kg with a bit of fuel (probably about 25kg) and a roll cage (and not too much body filler!) so is pretty much what you'd expect. I plan to take my early lightweight SV for a weighing and will let you know what it weighs. Has anyone ever weighed one, and has anyone weighed a 750 confortovole with the steel panels and a later 101 SV??

It would be good to know what the 'real' weights are as opposed to what Alfa probably claimed to give them a bit of scope for competition lightening from the standard car.

Paul

kuni123456 · #47 (**permalink**) 02-13-2007, 08:31 PM

Lionel,

I purchased one of your wiring harness for my 1961 Sprint Veloce. I never used the harness, but I will one day finish restoring my car. I have a regular Sprint Veloce with a interesting body number starting with ARE instead of AR. I have to have the car repainted and replace the original interior. The engine, transmission, clutch, and rest of the mechanical parts have been rebuilt many years ago. I will probably finish the car in a few years.

dretceterini · #48 (**permalink**) 02-13-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kuni123456

Lionel,

I purchased one of your wiring harness for my 1961 Sprint Veloce. I never used the harness, but I will one day finish restoring my car. I have a regular Sprint Veloce with a interesting body number starting with ARE instead of AR. I have to have the car repainted and replace the original interior. The engine, transmission, clutch, and rest of the mechanical parts have been rebuilt many years ago. I will probably finish the car in a few years.

**velocedoc** · #49 (**permalink**) 02-14-2007, 12:09 AM

this should be interesting to see what AR comes back with. I wonder if they will say this car doesn't exist?

AlfistiSA · #50 (**permalink**) 02-14-2007, 03:05 AM

Given that the USA cars are titled in the year of registration, rather than manufacture, there is a chance that your '61 Veloce may actually be a '60 and that it may be the last of the 750E's rather than the 10106's.

Of course there is a chance that "Luigi-on-the-line" having probably had a bottle of Chianti for lunch, stamped the "E" after the AR & not above the number or between the 1493 and the rest of the chassis number.....

Just speculation - what is the chassis number of the car ?

Cheers
Greig
Sunny South Africa

Twin cam · #51 (**permalink**) 02-16-2007, 12:07 PM

I put my 'lightweight' Sprint Veloce on the weighbridge yesterday and it weighed in at 835kg having taken off the weight of fuel in the tank but with oil, water, jack, spare wheel. Interesting how this compares with what must be an optimisticly claimed 770Kg as Alfa usually give weights part dry i.e. no fuel but with oil, water etc.!

Anyone got a figure for an all-steel bodied SV?

Paul

divotandtralee · #52 (**permalink**) 02-16-2007, 03:05 PM

Parts book says Kg's : 770 for SZ; 895 for SprintV; 880 for Sprint.. I wouldn't be surprised to know a Lwt is only 60 Kg's (130 lbs) lighter than an all steel SprintV. I always thought the whole concept was to minimize the weight with a dwarf driving.

Put a jockey in the seat of a Lwt; and you have saved almost 230 lbs vs
a 6 foot 200 lb lummox from this here North America. Conversely, put the dwarf in a standard car vs the 6 footer in the Lwt and the Standard car is 40 KG LIGHTER (88 lbs)....This is always an issue when power to draw from is just north of 100HP... All the reason to emply your pockets and go on a diet to maximize performance. Rick

dretceterini · #53 (**permalink**) 02-16-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by divotandtralee

Parts book says Kg's : 770 for SZ; 895 for SprintV; 880 for Sprint.. I wouldn't be surprised to know a Lwt is only 60 Kg's (130 lbs) lighter than an all steel SprintV. I always thought the whole concept was to minimize the weight with a dwarf driving.

Put a jockey in the seat of a Lwt; and you have saved almost 230 lbs vs
a 6 foot 200 lb lummox from this here North America. Conversely, put the dwarf in a standard car vs the 6 footer in the Lwt and the Standard car is 40 KG LIGHTER (88 lbs)....This is always an issue when power to draw from is just north of 100HP... All the reason to emply your pockets and go on a diet to maximize performance. Rick

Twin cam · #54 (**permalink**) 02-16-2007, 04:23 PM

Stu

I suspect that the biggest single weight saving is in the bumpers, if you've ever felt a steel one!

I'm sure Rick's comments about the driver are spot on, just like jockeys. A friend keeps talking about lightening his race car and I point out he could easily lose 30lbs of his body weight and save a lot of money.

I just had a look in the Hughes /da Prato book (still the best IMO) and they quote the lightweight at 845kg some 70kg lighter than a standard steel Sprint. It looks like my measured figure of 835 kg is pretty close and with a couple of gallons of fuel it would be 845kg.

Paul

dretceterini · #55 (**permalink**) 02-16-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Twin cam

Stu

I suspect that the biggest single weight saving is in the bumpers, if you've ever felt a steel one!

I'm sure Rick's comments about the driver are spot on, just like jockeys. A friend keeps talking about lightening his race car and I point out he could easily lose 30lbs of his body weight and save a lot of money.

I just had a look in the Hughes /da Prato book (still the best IMO) and they quote the lightweight at 845kg some 70kg lighter than a standard steel Sprint. It looks like my measured figure of 835 kg is pretty close and with a couple of gallons of fuel it would be 845kg.

Paul

Twin cam · #56 (**permalink**) 02-17-2007, 11:36 AM

A friend has just weighed his 101 steel bodied Sprint Veloce and it came to 940kg with 10 Imperial gallons on board. So with sparewheel, jack, oil and water and an empty tank it comes to 906 kg. Just about where you would expect it at around 900kg versus the 'official' figure of 895kg so it looks as though the lightweight is about 70kg lighter.

Paul

chrisgpj1c · #57 (**permalink**) 02-18-2007, 01:53 PM

I know you've all been holding your breath waiting for this,the Lightweight rear bumper weighs 1.1kg, thats the total of all 3 pieces. As luck would have it,I don't have a front bumper, or any steel normale bumpers to compare.

Chris

Joseph · #58 (**permalink**) 02-18-2007, 03:51 PM

My steel 3 pieces weighs 10 lbs 13 oz or 4.9 kg

phila3885 · #59 (**permalink**) 03-31-2007, 08:21 PM

Hi. New to the forum but longtime Sprint Veloce fan. I'm confused. Sounds like confortovole was just a standard production all-steel 750 veloce. What were the differences? Was it still lightened somewhat? You can reply private or public, thanks!

Phil

**oraziosatta** · #60 (**permalink**) 03-31-2007, 08:37 PM

Lionel: Good luck on your project. I believe you saw my Confortevole at the meet in New Hampshire in 2004. It is silver and is No. 06552. I believe my car is fairly correct and if I can provide any pictures, I would be glad to do so. Dave Strus, Kokomo, Indiana.