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post #76 of 88 (permalink) Old 11-19-2014, 02:11 AM Thread Starter
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ahà Lionel...con que esas tenemos

The man in my profile pic is Carlos Arzani, an argentinian race driver:

Carlos Arzani sips a "mate", a green tea, while resting on his 8C, serial number 50014. Later, after being significantly modified, 50014 was further destroyed in a fatal accident in 1948.

Picture from the book: Alfa Romeo Argentina, Part I, By Cristián Bertschi and
Estanislao Iacona. (Veloce Today)

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All over red

So, afther 250 hours of (prep and painting) work, my Giulietta is back to it's original Rosso alfa 501. A few pictures here, all the rest in my Blog.











Reassembling starts soon

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Isn't it amazing to see them like this again?


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Hello Alejandro,

Don't you think that the original red color of the Giulietta Spider is "rosso chiaro" (or "rosso Pininfarina") AR 505 ?

Previously = Giulia TI Super, Giulietta 1300 Sprint, 1600 Sprint GT Junior, Alfetta GTV, Alfetta 2000 saloon. Currently = Alfa 156 TS, Giulia Spider.
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AFAIK it is Rosso Alfa 501, but... se below



I compared several color samples from different brands before deciding on what I belive was the factory shape of red used on my spider. As you can see above, the Maxmayer A.R. 501 Rosso Alfa 21/B (left) matches the Lechler 505 Rosso chiaro, whereas the Lechler 501 matches the Maxmayer 501 21/A.

It must be considered that for the same color there are different shapes. The A.R. 501 Rosso Alfa changes over the years, so it is darker on early cars (21/A) and a bit clearer since 1960 (21/B). My spider is a 1960 101 interim Veloce, then I chose the 21/B from Maxmayer. if I had used Lechler products, I probably would have chosen their 505 Rosso Chiaro.

As a side note, I will refer what an expert told me about the processes of painting at the pininfarina factory. He discovered this curious fact while, using advanced chromatography techniques, he was trying to establish the right shape of each early A.R. nitro color in order to reproduce them with modern chemicals. Shortly, there was no color equal to itself! More precisely, only the cars painted together in the same batch were the same color, that because, quite simply, the tank cleaning between the coating of a batch of cars and the other was not a priority at that time, so, if, for instance, before painting your car they had painted a batch of white cars, your car was a lighter color, or darker if the previous batch was black and so on.

Frankly not sure how much of this is entirely true, but something tells me that things were not going very differently.
One thing is clear: often, to be faithful to the factory specifications, we become trapped into dilemmas to the limit of absurdity, and only a look at how things really were in those days shows us that we risk being more catholic than the Pope

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Alejandro,
I agree that there seem be 3 nuances of rosso 501, witch were applied to bodies Bertone or Touring according to the joined picture witch I saw in AlfaBB forum.
But there were also 2 nuances of rosso Chiaro AR 505 (Cardinal red and Farina red which seem to have been applied to Pininfarina spider 750/101 ..
But you are doubtless right that every car was able to be different in the time, and your work to resuscitate this Giulietta is fantastic !


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My veloce leaving the paint Shop

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and two pictures:




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This is a stage in restoration where the designers idea is more obvious to me than the completed car. I don't know why. Beautiful. Just beautiful.


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Gordon you are spot-on !!

All the designers & Carrozzeria just got it right the first time
  • Pininfarina with the Spider
  • Bertone with the Sprint & Sprint Speciale
  • Centro Stile with the Berlina & Ti
  • Zagato with the SZ

They carry a big WOW factor today, but back when they were new, they were revolutionary. Age has continued to flatter these little Jewels - not something that can be claimed by every design from the '50's.....witness the Edsel amongst others...

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...and finally, the assembly stage:

> More pictures on my Blog:









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