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Old 05-16-2012, 07:57 AM
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I would also agree. I have never seen a black one, and the gray one is the same as on my '59 Veloce.

The car is looking great!
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:08 AM
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That is nice, a real car doesn't have a glove box door
Thanks for bringing back the memories!
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:42 PM
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The black crinkle square one isn't correct for the car, so go with the repro as mentioned before. The black wrinkle mirror has round corners with a chrome trim around it for a later model 101 spider.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:33 PM
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Engine and Transmission Install

Quick question folks. We're getting ready to drop the engine and transmission into the car and we're a bit perplexed by one stud under the car. See the attachment with the item circled in RED. This stud is on the left side of the car (shown on the right in the picture below because this is a rear view).

Any idea what this attaches to?

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[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/168605-new-1958-giulietta-spider-veloce-8.html"]1958 Giulietta Spider Veloce[/URL] - Completed Sept 2012
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/171254-1959-750e-sprint-veloce-new-addition.html"]1959 Giulietta Sprint Veloce[/URL] - Restoration Paused, Currently Sleeping
1960 Giulietta Spider Normale - In Hibernation
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/185649-1965-sprint-speciale.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint Speciale[/URL] - Up After the GTC
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/198416-1965-gtc-new-project.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint GTC[/URL] - Restoration Started
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:00 PM
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da clutch rod yoke ... you need to scratch the paint off...ooops never mind .. someone will know...It's hard too see on the ground

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Old 05-23-2012, 01:11 PM
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[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/168605-new-1958-giulietta-spider-veloce-8.html"]1958 Giulietta Spider Veloce[/URL] - Completed Sept 2012
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/171254-1959-750e-sprint-veloce-new-addition.html"]1959 Giulietta Sprint Veloce[/URL] - Restoration Paused, Currently Sleeping
1960 Giulietta Spider Normale - In Hibernation
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/185649-1965-sprint-speciale.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint Speciale[/URL] - Up After the GTC
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/198416-1965-gtc-new-project.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint GTC[/URL] - Restoration Started
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:24 PM
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Ah, the spindle for column shift linkage?
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:06 PM
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Oh that's interesting. Was this spindle on all cars even if they didn't have column shift?
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[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/168605-new-1958-giulietta-spider-veloce-8.html"]1958 Giulietta Spider Veloce[/URL] - Completed Sept 2012
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/171254-1959-750e-sprint-veloce-new-addition.html"]1959 Giulietta Sprint Veloce[/URL] - Restoration Paused, Currently Sleeping
1960 Giulietta Spider Normale - In Hibernation
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/185649-1965-sprint-speciale.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint Speciale[/URL] - Up After the GTC
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/198416-1965-gtc-new-project.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint GTC[/URL] - Restoration Started
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:30 AM
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Oh that's interesting. Was this spindle on all cars even if they didn't have column shift?
Dunno.. never been on my list.....i just had a thought over morning coffee..hope I'm not too late... did you remember to lay in the headers before you dropped the motor in? they should be bolted on after you drop the motor, but need to be in the car .
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:54 AM
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We're not quite there yet. Need to finish running the brake lines that go along the firewall first. Then the motor goes in. Thanks for the tip regarding laying the headers in first.

As for this column shift stud, the consensus here is that it was put in my car but never used. Apparently there were a few (very few) column shift Spiders made and perhaps my car was originally supposed to be column shift but was never built that way. By all accounts and according to the records I have, this car was always a floor shift model and I have the original 4 speed tunnel transmission.

Interesting stuff...
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[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/168605-new-1958-giulietta-spider-veloce-8.html"]1958 Giulietta Spider Veloce[/URL] - Completed Sept 2012
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/171254-1959-750e-sprint-veloce-new-addition.html"]1959 Giulietta Sprint Veloce[/URL] - Restoration Paused, Currently Sleeping
1960 Giulietta Spider Normale - In Hibernation
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/185649-1965-sprint-speciale.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint Speciale[/URL] - Up After the GTC
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/198416-1965-gtc-new-project.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint GTC[/URL] - Restoration Started
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Old 05-24-2012, 11:24 AM
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Hi Guys

Yes that is the pin for the column shift, it's a leftover on most 750's from what I can see it disappeared in late '58

Some trivia on the column shift - Alfa built column shift tunnel case boxes in the Sprints up to chassis 07300, which is somewhere in late '58, given that E06611 is the last known Series I and the split case box arrived in September '58. Alfa also built column shift split case boxed Ti's and Berlina's using a different linkage system and operating the shift rods from the front of the tranny through the bell housing - ever wondered what that funny casting and perforation was on the LHS side of your 101 bell housing..........

Working around these dates one can take an educated "guesstimate" that by Spider 05500 that pin was a memory.

Paul your car was always a floor shift, the Spiders were all floor shift from very early on, but the pin persisted, the Sprints used floor shift on export cars and column shift for the home market - All Sprint Veloce's are floor shift. The column shifts were standard spec for all Berlina's and Ti's right up to '61/62 for export cars and '60 for the RHD versions. Our '61 RHD Ti is floor shift

There are a few column shift Sprints about, mine is 05262, despite Alfa apparently using the column shift up to 07300 I haven't seen nor heard of one much later than the late Michael Payne's 'Giulie' 1493*05439 which he bought new in '57. All the ones I know are Series I cars, I'd be very interested to see an Interim column shift Sprint - if indeed such a beast ever existed ??

I guess that 'pin' escaped the accountant's beady eye for several years on the Spiders...

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Old 05-24-2012, 12:01 PM
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Claus Menzel has a column shift Spider, he claims...but he is from Michigan and that makes all the difference
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:30 PM
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Old 05-24-2012, 02:07 PM
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Oh my goodness, my Spider was sourced from Michigan too.
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[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/168605-new-1958-giulietta-spider-veloce-8.html"]1958 Giulietta Spider Veloce[/URL] - Completed Sept 2012
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/171254-1959-750e-sprint-veloce-new-addition.html"]1959 Giulietta Sprint Veloce[/URL] - Restoration Paused, Currently Sleeping
1960 Giulietta Spider Normale - In Hibernation
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/185649-1965-sprint-speciale.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint Speciale[/URL] - Up After the GTC
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/198416-1965-gtc-new-project.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint GTC[/URL] - Restoration Started
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:05 AM
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Engine is in

Well folks, after a two month delay at the upholstery shop (don't ask...), we're finally back to the engine and drive train. The engine, transmission and prop shaft are all in this week. Now hooking up all the bits and pieces underside and then on to the top side hookups. A few pictures. Yes, we still have to scrub the "Alfa Romeo" on the cam cover.
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[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/168605-new-1958-giulietta-spider-veloce-8.html"]1958 Giulietta Spider Veloce[/URL] - Completed Sept 2012
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giulietta-giulia-1954-65/171254-1959-750e-sprint-veloce-new-addition.html"]1959 Giulietta Sprint Veloce[/URL] - Restoration Paused, Currently Sleeping
1960 Giulietta Spider Normale - In Hibernation
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/185649-1965-sprint-speciale.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint Speciale[/URL] - Up After the GTC
[URL="http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/limited-production-1960-1977/198416-1965-gtc-new-project.html"]1965 Giulia Sprint GTC[/URL] - Restoration Started
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