'63 Giulia Spider Normale Restoration (Euro) - Page 35

**pathung** · #**511** (**permalink**) 01-30-2008, 08:58 AM

Pat G. and Peter,

The secret with Gordon and I: we take good photos? At times I hope that I never meet any of you face to face because I would dread hearing... "the pictures were really nice, but this car here looks... hmmm..."

Gordon has no such fears of course, he'll put his money where his camera is.

Gordon Raymond · #**512** (**permalink**) 01-30-2008, 09:54 AM

Patrick,
I have exactly the same fears

! Just ask Alfar 7, Richard J. His work comes out just as nice, BUT... faster! Either more experience, or better tunnel vision

. Some of the work, seen here on the BB is absolutely amazing. It can make anyone try to do it better, and the information exchange, both positive AND negative is wonderful. If our governments could just mimic the brain trust we have here and not merely plot disagreements, but positive, thought out solutions, the entire world would be a better place! Again, just my thread hijacking

, opinion!

Gordon Raymond

**pathung** · #**513** (**permalink**) 01-30-2008, 08:11 PM

A long-winded thread like this one (going on 2.5 years) should withstand your persistent hijacking, Gordon. I hijack it myself at times to test its true mettle. Bring it on, hijackers!

**pathung** · #**514** (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 11:26 PM

No engine work this weekend in Berkeley (had a bit of a cough), but got some stuff done at home - mostly to the bottom of the car.

First off are the brake tubes, along with the T-piece just downstream of the brake MC. Although none of my brakes have been installed, all newly-made brake tubes seem to reach where they need to be.

I also started working on the emergency brake. I bought new front and rear sections, and other than one pin hole being smaller than the pin itself on the rear-section, everything looks good so far, though I'm not quite finished with the system, with the e-brake lever inside the passenger compartment yet to be installed.

Lastly, I installed the new fuel level sender onto the refurbished gas tank, hoping to tackle tank installation next week. One of the clutch actuating rods has also been installed; I figure that the sooner I install the parts that are ready, the less likely I will lose them.

**pathung** · #**515** (**permalink**) 02-03-2008, 11:27 PM

A few more shots:

alfa soon · #**516** (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 09:38 AM

Patrick,

It looks fantastic under your car. I keep refering to this thread among others to see how things have been done by others as I try and plan my SS build. I can't wait to be at the point you are now, though I am enjoying the journey.

**alfabits** · #**517** (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 04:04 PM

Patrick, looks great. Are you using copper tubing?

Cheers,

George

**pathung** · #**518** (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 09:49 PM

Matt, you're right in stating how wonderful a restoration journey could be. I'll keep an eye out for that Veloce 1300 of yours.

George, I used CuNiFer (Copper/Nickel/Steel - 89%/10%/1%) lines. These are corrosion resistant and supposedly used as OEM lines on current Porsches, Audis, and Volvos.

Question: what gauge wire should I use for the battery cable? I bought 12 ft. of 4 gauge, which looks a bit wimpy... 2 gauge, on further thought, seems more suitable. Thanks in advance for recommendations.

**pathung** · #**519** (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 10:12 PM

Two questions, actually:

Battery cable gauge size?
For 1600 Giulias, which heater valve (see photos below) is the correct one?

Grazie.

P.S. These photos are copyright International Auto Parts, Inc.

**Subtle** · #**520** (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 10:19 PM

Ground from the battery is braided flat stuff to the chassis--about an inch wide.

**pathung** · #**521** (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 10:31 PM

Subtle, I'm interested in the size of the cable that runs from the battery in the trunk to the starter in the engine compartment.

**Subtle** · #**522** (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 11:15 PM

Pat--that's all I could do at the moment.

The Spider is in the shop for some weeks as the transmission and rear end are redone.

Otherwise I could have measured the gauge.

**AR58SprintV** · #**523** (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 11:52 PM

Dear Patrick,
I installed 4-gage finestrand Welding Cable in mine.
It's plenty large for our little motorcars, we're not turning over a Chevy or Peterbuilt!
Don't forget the disconnect switch.
Ask Glenn, he's helping with the motor.
Cheers, Laurence

Gordon Raymond · #**524** (**permalink**) 02-05-2008, 07:10 AM

Where is your memory?? Two words; LIONEL VALDEZ. The wiremaster! Probably has some twisted around his ankle as he fixes stuff. Call him; otherwise I have to hike to the shop, jack the thing up, and take yet MORE pictures. Do you really want that

?
The hot water valve (generally) on Giuliettas is the faucet type, (By the way if yours does not work, rather than spend BIG BUCKS for a new one, Goeff Ohland, Partsource, has the guts). The complex lever type is Giulia, though a mount was also used... {WANT A PICTURE????

} Best,

Gordon Raymond