'63 Giulia Spider Normale Restoration (Euro) - Page 10

**pathung** · #**136** (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alfa soon

I added a modern ND alternator. Allows tidying of the wiring in the engine compartment... This may be a good way for you to go if you plan on using those big driving lights that are on your 'make it look like this' picture.

**pathung** · #**137** (**permalink**) 12-23-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lionel Velez

Patrick,

I have some connectors that will fit your voltage regulator. They will act as a quick disconect like the quick disconnect you have on the blue wire. I have them to fit small and large spade connectors. Let me know how many you need. Lionel

**pathung** · #**138** (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 09:14 PM

Is anyone familiar with how the original '63 horns sound? I'd like them loud, and preferably distinctive - never heard what a stock set sounds like. Should I go with a set of airhorns from some of the suppliers instead? Any recommendations for Italian-sounding airhorns? Thanks!

**Gordon Raymond** · #**139** (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 09:49 PM

Hi Patrick,
A pair of the stock Bosch units, working properly, sound great. One is usually tuned a little higher/lower tone than the other. They will attract attention!
The Fiamm Air horns on my 275 GTB Ferrari are also great, but require a compressor, and space for the trumpets. With the Alfa I like the Bosch. Also the Fiamm / Ferrari unit takes a very slight instant to build air pressure, while the Alfa Bosch horn is instant-on.
Gordon Raymond

**pathung** · #**140** (**permalink**) 01-22-2007, 09:56 PM

Thanks for the comments, Gordon. I'll go ahead and refurbish the pair of Bosch's that are original to the car, and see how I like them after they've been installed.

I do like the pair of compressor-induced airhorns installed in my GTV, despite a similar latent response.

Mikes4C1300 · #**141** (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 06:38 AM

Patrick,

I can vouch for the original equipment horns. They saved my bacon Saturday as some clown in an Explorer cut me off on an on-ramp. He never saw me way down there but those horns (and the screeching tires) woke him up. They'll make your ears bleed and that's a good thing in a car as small as a Giulia.

Mike Hollinger
Atlanta

**Subtle** · #**142** (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 07:20 AM

Airhorns can be modulated from a polite and good sounding little toot to the full blast.

The sound on the originals on the Spider is a puny little beep so perhaps they need rebuilding.

**Subtle** · #**143** (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by alfa soon

I added a modern ND alternator. Allows tidying of the wiring in the engine compartment. There is a lot on the wiring of the alternator on 750/101 list posts, but essentially, the big wire goes to the positive terminal on the starter solenoid (for negative ground cars) and the other wire (I believe the spade that makes the top of the 'T' formed by the two spade connector males) goes to the positive on the coil. The second spade can be hooked up to the charge light, but I'm not sure how as I haven't tried that yet.

This may be a good way for you to go if you plan on using those big driving lights that are on your 'make it look like this' picture.

alfazagato · #**144** (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 10:29 AM

Patrick,
Did you contact Conrad re a visit? I will be in Aptos in late April on my way to the Bay Area. Perhaps we could meet?

**pathung** · #**145** (**permalink**) 01-23-2007, 09:33 PM

Stuart,

No I haven't gotten in touch with Conrad yet - been way too busy at work. I'll be up in Berkeley at Oliveria Engineering this Friday, but again, will need to get back to work in San Jose right after dropping off and picking up a few parts from Glenn; he's got a refurbished differential/axle for me. This is after rushing up to Stockton in the morning to pick up my trued and powder-coated wheels/tires.

I'd love to meet up when you're in town! I'll give you a tour of my Alfa arsenal (well, just two cars, both Spiders). Are you driving up from Southern Cal and passing through Aptos? I will be abroad on business from mid-April till the 23rd, however. The weekend following that I might be scurrying along snowy mountain passes in my '71 Spider with a bunch of car nuts on the Alpine 500 Rally - but this is still tentative.

alfazagato · #**146** (**permalink**) 01-24-2007, 02:32 PM

Will give you dates soonest.

Alfajay · #**147** (**permalink**) 01-24-2007, 03:36 PM

Subtle:

I bought my alternator from Racecar OE Supply. See http://www.racecaroesupply.com/sande...?prod=12187NSE
It is priced now at $149, though for another $20 you can get one in CHROME (wouldn't that impress the concours judges!). Mine pretty much bolted on - I did need to use a stack of washers as spacers to get the fan pulley to line up fore-aft, as well as a stack under the adjusting strap. And, I had to lengthen the strap (that metal bar with the elongated hole).

This alternator is rated at 35 amps, which probably isn't any more than the old generator puts out. If 35A isn't enough, Racecar OE Supply also carries a 50 amp version - you could check the dimensions, and determine if that one would fit.

As the website warns, there is no provision for a warning light on these Nippondenso alternators.

The 750/101 List on Yahoo.com, as well as the old Alfa Digest, have huge archives on this subject.

**Subtle** · #**148** (**permalink**) 01-24-2007, 10:38 PM

Jay

Thanks for the info----

**pathung** · #**149** (**permalink**) 02-12-2007, 10:10 PM

I've been spending the last few weeks blasting and painting various chassis-related items such as suspension components and related nuts and bolts. Considering all the fun that I'm having, the few hundreds of dollars I spent on Harbor Freight's DIY-sized blast cabinet and compressor were sure worth it. I'm now pondering blasting anything around the house that doesn't have a perfect paint-job!

Most of these pieces are painted with the various-colored paint that Rustoleum comes in. The nuts and bolts were glass-bead blasted, then blackened using Eastwood's blackening kit, which looks good, but very labor intensive, followed by a final layer of sprayed-on sealer. I'm considering just blasting and sealing, letting the raw metal color show through the transparent sealer.

Now that the parts are ready to go back onto the car, I noticed that the bolts which hold the lateral trailing arms to the chassis and rear axle, respectively, are of two different part numbers in the spare parts book. Looking at my stash of six total bolts for these parts, I have four long ones and two short ones. The book indicates that there are four of 1356.48.065, two of which attach the triangle to the chassis while the other two attach the arms to the chassis. The remaining two, 1356.48.066, attach the arms to the axle brackets. Since I have FOUR long bolts, and not two, am I correct to assume that 1356.48.065 ARE the long bolts? Unfortunately, the parts book doesn't indicate the lengths of the bolts. But really, as long as they're long enough (but not too long) for the purpose, I'm happy to use them. See pictures.

**Subtle** · #**150** (**permalink**) 02-12-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pathung

Hi all,

I've decided to just ignore the fragile paint for now. I'm no better than Arnold at assembly, so there is bound to be more scratches along the way; happily, as Arnold correctly guessed, my painter offered to take the car back after assembly for a final polish. I told him that I'd see him within a year but he didn't believe me. My goal is to debut the car at the 2007 Concorso Italiano... gotta hurry, and still do everything by the book. Next up, send the chrome out and powder-coat/paint wheels and suspension components.

Anthony, I've obtained two samples of red seat material from Re-Originals, one dark, one "orangy" red. I'm leaning towards the lighter red, as I think it's period-correct for a 101 Giulia, unless I'm mistaken.

The following car is close to what I'm working towards: