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Great job. I had to do a similar replacement on my Spider.

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Hi George,

I had a look at your amazing restoration. I take my hat off!

I have a question. How are the hoses from the airfilter and the air inlet to the coupe supposed to be connected to the inlet behind the grill (on the drivers side) on a veloce? The remains (and mods) on my car give no clue.

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Hi George,

I had a look at your amazing restoration. I take my hat off!

I have a question. How are the hoses from the airfilter and the air inlet to the coupe supposed to be connected to the inlet behind the grill (on the drivers side) on a veloce? The remains (and mods) on my car give no clue.

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Martin, are you talking about the connection in the front wheel well from the front air scoop? I have clamps similar to these mounting the front air scoop.
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I am wondering how the air scoop itself should look, since I need to build new ones (all rusted away). I have attached a picture from a normale, but I assume it should look differently on a veloce with the two hoses.
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I think the Veloce has a vertical elbow that the air hose to the carbs fits to.

Originally part of the metal scoop, but one could secure the elbow aft.

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Hi Don,
A friend, Skip McCabe, of McCabe Automotive Restorations, has just completed the body work on a 1960 transitional Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce. At some time in this cars life, the nose was crushed, and it was re-nosed, rather poorly, as all the front end supporting structures were cut away. Skip borrowed my 1965 Spider Veloce this past winter to use as a pattern for recreating all the missing sheet metal on the 1960, including all the Veloce air pick up and components in the left side of the nose.
You might try e-mailing the secretary, Irene, @<mccabes860@aol.com> as they may have pictures of the work done for this cars owner. Tell Irene I sent you.


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Gordon, et al,..

The Sprint Air vent coming from the front opening are completely different. I am currently working on one of my Sprint Veloce's and will be making this piece. I can post some photos of what the original is suppose to look like later this week.

Martin, I am sure that you will be needing a wiring harness and I can sure help you with the most period correct reproduction available. Auto Italia Sportiva / Classicwiring.com Please feel free to see some of my harnesses in the Gallery section.

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Whew!
Thanks Lionel! Same customer at Skips has his '58 750 Sprint Veloce there, but I did not look at the cold air pick up.


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Thanks Lionel! Same customer at Skips has his '58 750 Sprint Veloce there, but I did not look at the cold air pick up.

Mine has been removed from the car and the view will be three dimensional
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I was sent a picture of how it should look for a 750 sprint. I guess it should be similar for the 101 except for the part around the indicator light.

I am creating templates (see figure, but please don't use it yet since there could be errors) and will post them once I have the complete idea of how they should look.

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I think the reason why the original branch for the air-to-carbs hose was vertical was to eliminate the risk of ramming water into the engine.

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MUCH different from the spiders!


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I was sent a picture of how it should look for a 750 sprint. I guess it should be similar for the 101 except for the part around the indicator light.

I am creating templates (see figure, but please don't use it yet since there could be errors) and will post them once I have the complete idea of how they should look.

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The above photo is for a 1st series Sprint with eyebrow trim. The 2nd series Sprint does not have the directional signal assembly attached to the box, but rather it is mounted on the egg crate grill.
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MUCH different from the spiders!
Granted, but my point was that it would be easier to put an upside down "T" aft of the existing scoop.

Which is what I will do on my Sprint.

As the saying goes we do live in a rain forest.

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The abnormal abnormale

As I learned it the term abnormale originally came from converting a regular Sprint into Veloce look-alike by adding twin webers and so.

My car has done an opposite transformation, hence being ďabnormalĒ. It did start life as a Veloce -61 but at some time in history it lost its original registration. The registration was replaced with that of a normale -60 which is the cars current identity. The body still wears the original Bertone body number and the Veloce specific sheet-metal beams for the 80 liter fuel tank and attachment for the handbrake wires.

Since the car doesnít have the original registration nor the original engine, gearbox, rear-axle, brakes or correct Veloce-instruments I donít aim for a perfect original restoration.

My aim with this car is too have something that looks authentic, is fun to drive and also suited for track-days. I aim to restore the bodywork and interior close to how it looked as new with a few exceptions. There will be a (removable) six-point roll cage and since I donít like the original chairs (not that I have them anyway) I plan to create replica SZ chairs that fits the era (of course), are beautiful and offer much better side grip. I do have a 2l engine, a five speed gearbox and rear- and front axles with disc brakes that are being prepared for the car. These will do until I can afford the correct items for the car. Should it be that Veloce papers should appear on the market I will see if I can afford them and put the car back to its original state. But for now it will have to stay an Abnormale!

The attached pictures of the beautiful -62 Veloce serves as an inspiration for the restoration work I am doing.

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