Spider interior - rear drape - door panels

morelisse · #1 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 09:20 AM

Hello all,

I never anticipated that installing an interior could raise sooo many questions

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Most of them I have allready figured out, mostly with your help, so many thanks to that. Just need to solve one more issue. So here it is:

I own a spider with a rear drape that attaches to a stainless steel trim. I just installed this trim piece together with the rear drape, looks good...but.... the drape is oversized at the sides. This raises two questions:

1) does the rear drape also run into the door trim or is it cut at the end of the rear trim? If it runs through...how???
2) does the rear door panel cover the fabric of the drape, or is it cut?

A bit cryptic but it's my best english

I will try to upload a pic of the 'problem' area tonight.

I really hope that there's somebody out there who can post some pics or explination. Many thanks in advance.

GTD · #2 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 03:07 PM

Jorg
There are different drapes used on different cars; it depends on the Series and what soft-top frame is used.
This pic shows the drape lifted. The side panels are on cards similar to the door cards.
Contact: Jan Steutel for more detailed information.

**alfabits** · #3 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by morelisse

Hello all,
1) does the rear drape also run into the door trim or is it cut at the end of the rear trim? If it runs through...how???
2) does the rear door panel cover the fabric of the drape, or is it cut?

GTD · #4 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 07:05 PM

George
Your pics, while great looking, don't really answer Jorg's questions.
Part of the problem is: we don't know which style soft-top frame Jorg is using.
We know his chassis is a 101 Series Giulietta into which he has fitted, I believe, a 1600 Giulia engine along with a few other changes.

Jorg - You can see in the first pic that the 101 drape has a cut on the right and left side. The side pieces fit behind the side cards with only the rolled bead exposed above the stainless steel cockpit trim.

The last pic is a drape which hangs from a cross-chassis wire and can be found on Series 750 and 101 cars. This drape has no stainless steel trim; the rolled lip of the cockpit provides the finished edge as demonstrated in GK's pics.

**alfabits** · #5 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 08:51 PM

Well we do know that he has the stainless trim (not like mine) He was asking how the side pieces fit. Anyone???

G

morelisse · #6 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 04:30 AM

Hi Guys (GTD and George),

first of all thanks for your replies. Some clearification from my side:

I have the drape with the cut on L/R sides, so not the one that hangs on a cross chassis wire. I also know now that it is secured to the bottom (L/R) with two fasteners (you guys gave clear pictures). I now also know thanks to you that the side pieces have to go under the side cards.

The thing I still can't figure out is whether the side pieces run all the way into the door trim or that they are cut at the end of the cockpit trim. So I am looking for a detailed picture of the area where the cockpit trim and the door trim meet each other.

GTD: yes it's a 1961 Giulietta with a 1600 installed into it (original 1300 engine was too far gone). Only modifications I made were to the engine mounts, and to the airfilter housing, that's actually one that belongs to a 1300 which I cut up to fit the 1600. Otherwise I had to relocate all the electrical components in the engine bay.

GTD · #7 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 07:44 AM

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So I am looking for a detailed picture of the area where the cockpit trim and the door trim meet each other.

morelisse · #8 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GTD

Jorg
I understand; you wish for detailed close-up pics of the areas indicated by the arrows.
The rolled bead above the stainless steel trim runs to the stainless door-frame trim and folds beneath it such that it forms a smooth transition at the B-pillar.

GTD · #9 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 12:35 PM

Jorg
The rolled bead is above the cockpit stainless steel trim until it comes to the end near the door frame trim. It turns around the end of the cockpit trim, filling the small space between the trim pieces. The end of the rolled bead is then hidden behind the side panel or card.

I do not have a close-up pic of this area.

One of your problems may be that your car is a 101 Giulietta but the trim you are using is from a Giulia Spider. I expect you car was originally fitted as is George's black Spider.

The center section of your rear bumper is from a 750 Giulietta.

morelisse · #10 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 01:41 PM

GTD,

first of all thanks again for your reply!

I noticed that the title of your reply was in Dutch

I think I know how it works now. I am still a little bit wondering on how the fabric of the drape ends should finish but I think I'll give it a try, it can't be that hard to see what looks the best. So thanks again for your and George's info.

You have a sharp eye, yes the rear bumper section is for a 750. My 101 rear piece was too far gone and I found this one so I made it to fit this car (very very much work!!) I now understand why there are numbers on all those pieces...

But...when finished and rechromed I found out that there was a difference between the both....completely overlooked by me at first. Since I didn't want to spend big bucks and lots of time again I came to some sort of acceptance with it....

Unfortunately this also goes for the licenseplate holder, which is (in my opinion) far more uglier than the ones for the 101's..that is..in Holland the licenseplates are a bit smaller than the holders...so looks weird...but that's my opinion.... To complete the list of abnormalities, the seats are also off...I don't know which model they represent but they are slighly different than the original ones...

Concerning your suggestion that it probably was fitted like George's car, this is not the case. The holes for the trim look original and there is no sign of a cross chassis wire what so ever. Furthermore this drape came with the car. So my best guess is that this is original.

If anyone has pics of GTD's marked area..you would make me a happy man!!

Tnx

**rcess** · #11 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GTD

One of your problems may be that your car is a 101 Giulietta but the trim you are using is from a Giulia Spider. I expect you car was originally fitted as is George's black Spider.

GTD · #12 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 03:29 PM

"Als je het weet niet"... ver volgens moet u een vraag stellen ... op de AlfaBB!
Beste wensen ... gelukkig autorijden!

Bob - Thank you for clarifying the era of transition.

GTD · #13 (**permalink**) 08-12-2009, 06:50 PM

Jorg
One last pic. Ignore the triangular bracket; that is for attaching a hardtop.

I must give credit for this pic to
min vän, Mr Za-gato.

morelisse · #14 (**permalink**) 08-13-2009, 03:02 AM

Ok guys, I think I got it. Next weekend I hope to put it all in place. I will post the pics in my photo thread. Thanks for your kind help.

GTD: Jij ook veel plezier met auto rijden, bedankt!

raelorance · #15 (**permalink**) 08-22-2009, 03:37 AM

With a stripped down original '67 in my garage patiently waiting it's turn, I'm delighted with your effort!!Concerning your suggestion that it probably was fitted like car, this is not the case.Furthermore this drape came with the car. So my best guess is that this is original.Spiders from 1971 to 1978 also were fitted with rubber mats. Our carpet set replaces the rubber mats and includes all the carpet from the firewall to the ledge behind the seats.
A drapery system which allows for rapid hanging and removal of drapes has carriers which are connected to the drape panels using strips of Velcro material.
Lateral head protection on a convertible vehicle in which window curtain airbags cannot be integrated.
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