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So the weights are still present for the advance even if it has a vacuum advance canister? A quick Google search shows that the Pertronix 1847 is for vacuum advance, I'm assuming the 1849 kit is for "mechanical" advance such as the weights?
Phil, are you a member of any Alfa clubs in GA?
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09-14-2009, 09:06 AM
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Dan,Yes,this particuliar distributor uses both mechanical and vacuum advance.I believe the Pertronix 1847 is for the later aluminum bodied Bosch.I sent that one back and got the 1849,which,as I mentioned,had to be modified a little to make work.(the mbzponton site has a decent article w/ pics on this.)And this was two years ago.Maybe Pertronix makes a kit that works now.No local clubs as of yet.Call me or send a number,Best Regards,Phil 770 564 9539
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09-14-2009, 09:21 AM
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I definitely have a steel-bodied dizzy. It is all rusty! So how does the inside of the dizzy need to be cleaned? Lubricated? I have read the mostly recent posts on the 750/101 group about these weights being big trouble if not performing properly. My vacuum advance was not hooked up when I got the car; where does the vacuum line originate? I have a downdraft manifold with a single Solex carb.
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09-14-2009, 09:24 AM
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Finally found the thread here on the BB. Search "electronic ignition" in this forum.
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09-14-2009, 10:17 AM
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Phil,
I can't find it. Will search again later, or on the Net.
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09-14-2009, 09:52 PM
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Hi Dan
The rear parcel shelf was originally done in Bertone's famous murky black primer, (which they obviously bought cheaply in bulk quantities), then it was covered in the darker of the 2 interior vinyls to match the rear shelf capping & the door panel trim - in your case, the dark blue, but the vinyl was glued in such a way as to clearly show the ribs on the rear panel - the easiest way to do this today is with strips of wood cut to the same size as the ribs & then use bricks to hold the vinyl in place until the glue has set. Of course the sunken ribs just serve to catch dust & crud, but who are we to argue with Bertone's genius.
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Greig,
When did Bertone stop with the black primer on the parcel shelf? Have you ever seen an original car like that? I'm not doubting you, just curious.
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09-15-2009, 03:49 AM
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Or would this be a difference between a "regular" Sprint and a "luxurious" Confortevole?
Another question: what type of lubricant should I use for the advance weights inside the distributor? Graphite? None?
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09-15-2009, 01:56 PM
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Dad (Richard) got the passenger brake drum off today. I realized that this was the tire that was buried(!) up to the hubcap in fine south Georgia silt after sitting for so long. No wonder it took some sort of weird looking tool contraption to get off.
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09-15-2009, 05:55 PM
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So my dad made these huge pliers with wood, a piece of bar stock as the hinge point, and a huge metal clamp for compression. He squeezed the brake shoes in and slid off the drum.
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09-15-2009, 09:14 PM
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So my dad made these huge pliers with wood, a piece of bar stock as the hinge point, and a huge metal clamp for compression. He squeezed the brake shoes in and slid off the drum.
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Pretty cool! In situations like this, I was wondering if a loop rope could be wrapped around the shoes, then tightened like tourniquet.
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Hi Chuck
The underside of every rear window shelf I have ever seen has been in black, when held up to the light, it's obvious it wasn't sprayed to pass concourse inspection, as this was just the lid that closed the hole above the boot - the sides & floor of which was sprayed with a black rubberising textured stuff. The top of the tin shelves when I pulled the vinyl off, was also a black primer type paint under the vinyl - with the exception of one, which had a grey primer under the black paint, but that could have been restored by a PO who painted grey primer & then squirted black on top of that.
The top is covered with vinyl to match the interior and the underside is dark to match the inside of the boot - I'd suggest that Bertone probably used a generic "chassis black" type primer / paint on this part, most likely the same stuff that was used in the lower third of the engine bay & underneath the body. They would hardly have used an expensive top coat on a ribbed tin panel which was going to be covered with vinyl anyway. All that was needed was something to provide a 'key' for the adhesive & stop the panel rusting - generic murky 'chassis black' was fast easy & cheap.
All the ribbed panels on my 750 & 101 Sprints are like this, no distinction between Normale's and Veloce.
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09-16-2009, 05:49 PM
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How does this rear shelf come out? On my Datsun it was just held in with a few screws. I don't want to take too much out of the car since I haven't finished the cleanup segment of my interior "restoration."
I can source some marine grade vinyl almost the exact color to cover it up. Obviously anything would be an improvement for my mom to look at when she walks to her car in the garage!
Can anyone send me or post pictures of the underside of the shelf showing how the vinyl is attached? Spray glue is my guess for me to recover it.
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Hi Dan
You need to take off the half round cover across the back of the "rear backrest" area - it covers the tops of the rear shock absorbers & yes, you will think it's too long & can't possibly come out, they are all like this & patience & wiggling will remove it - it's a loose fit into a metal channel on the top of the rear backrest.
Once this is off, you should be able to grasp the leading edge of the rear shelf & simply pull it forward.
I've seen these shelves with small tongues of steel which slip into grooves on the 3 horizontal bars under the rear window, of course I've also seen them held in place with small nuts & bolts, depending on what the previous owner decided to do. Have a look at the underside of the shelf by looking into the boot, that should give you some idea's.
As for recovering it - depends on the final choice of external colour as the internal trim compliments the external colour, so if you choose blue, then it would compliment the original light blue colour, if your intention is to spray the car resale red like the herd, then the vinyl should be red. Yes it was spray-glued on.
I'd suggest Mom is more patient than you give her credit for, this car is an awesome family heritage project which Grandpa Richard, you & the bambino's can all enjoy together - who knows, she might even give you a hand with the soft trim when the time comes...
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09-18-2009, 04:34 PM
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I think I used mom's patience up with the V6 Datsun 510 project that sat in her garage for 3 years, (2001-2005)!
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09-18-2009, 06:28 PM
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Who makes the best trunk floor replacement metal for the 750 Sprint Veloce? I've heard mixed reviews about Wolf Steel, but they (he?) does have the Veloce breather tube for the gas tank. I'm not worried about cost for something like this, just proper [sic] fitment.
Is it better just to make the floor out of sheet steel? What gauge? I can make the plywood form for the depressions with a router and the air hammer if needed (as seen in an earlier post).
What are my options here?
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