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Old 10-05-2008, 07:55 PM
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Giulietta Spider road trip

Finally have the Spider in my garage! After getting quotes for covered shipping - the car didn't have a top when I bought it - I decided to use the money that would have gone to shipping to install a top, and drive it back home. Road trip!

My wife and I left the kids with Grandma and flew from DC to Detroit yesterday morning. We drove as far as Pittsburgh yesterday and did the rest of the trip today. She ran like a top!

Feel free to debate the intelligence of driving a nearly 50 year old car close to 600 miles without so much as a screwdriver. In the meantime, here are some impressions of my new toy:

Not sure why people badmouth the Solex so much. It ran great, got decent mileage, you can feel the secondary kick in when you floor it, and the choke worked perfectly in 40 degree weather this morning.

That little 1300 isn't what anyone would call fast, but it kept up with traffic doing 75 on the Ohio Turnpike no problem.

The trans is a 5 speed, freshly rebuilt with 115 guts by Rex Chalmers. The extra cog makes that 75 mph speed much more relaxed, and the trans shifts like butter!

I might need to make a call to Alfastop. The hydraulics seem fine, but you have to really stand on it to get the thing to slow down. The shoes were probably re-lined with the wrong material.

Alfa learned quite a lot between the 101 and 115 convertible tops.

The car really comes into its own with the top down, on winding roads, at speeds somewhere below 60 MPH. Fun!

Those skinny Vredensteins are nice tires, and the car really handles like an Alfa. Plenty of lean, but takes a good set and likes to be tossed around a bit.

Last but not least, Giuliettas make people smile. What a sweetheart of a car.

Anyway, I'm sure you know all this, but it's all new to me. I'll post some more observations and questions later, but for now here are the pics! The first set are from the upholstery shop where we picked it up.

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Old 10-05-2008, 08:05 PM
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Oops, that second one was from a candy shop in PA called Gene and Boots. Here are a few more from the road:

On the turnpike
Chilly Pittsburgh morning
Top down - yahoo!
Not much storage space...
Your humble narrator
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Battista "Pinin" Farina, or Frank Lloyd Wright? Discuss.
Scenic overlook in Maryland
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Home with her new sibling
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:24 AM
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Doesn't it feel awesome to do a trip like that?? She sure looks sweet, congrats!
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What a beauty! Can't wait to see it in person. It's significant that your wife was still smiling by the time you got to Maryland.
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Congratulations on a nice car, trip and story ... I think all of us enjoyed it!
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Lurvy car and great trip. Yes, everyone smiles at a red Giulietta Spider, including the driver and passengers.

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Lurvy car and great trip. Yes, everyone smiles at a red Giulietta Spider, including the driver and passengers.

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And the cops at the toll booth.

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My 1960 Spider drives amazingly like a much more modern car. if parts weren't so scarce/expensive, I'd be temped to drive it more often. I also hate leaving it alone in parking lots or parked on the street between mini vans and SUV's!

About the Solex, it sounds like you are the owner of a rare fully working one. The two I had never really ran right and gave me hot start problems.
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I babysat a Giulia TI that had been converted to a downdraft Weber and it was the worst cold-starting car I've ever been involved with. Lots of choke and cranking. And ridiculous induction noises without the airbox.
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[quote=Andrew Schank;648515]My 1960 Spider drives amazingly like a much more modern car. if parts weren't so scarce/expensive, I'd be temped to drive it more often.

Modern car--yes

I've dampened most resonating panels with Hushmat and the improvement in driving comfort is night and day.

With the 2 L engine and taller diff (4.11) and roof down the comfortable cruising speed is around 3800 in fifth. By calculation a little over 80 mph, 130 kph.

Other than hellish crowding on freeways fast drives are not tiring.
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Should add that the hushmat squares were stuck to the inside of the door panels--not to the outside. No reason for the puritans to get upset.

Adds about 10 lbs and didn't do the trunk lid--when tapped it reminds of how
tinny" most everything was.
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I babysat a Giulia TI that had been converted to a downdraft Weber and it was the worst cold-starting car I've ever been involved with. Lots of choke and cranking. And ridiculous induction noises without the airbox.
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The PO bought the Weber conversion kit from Centerline and sent it back. He had the Solex rebuilt professionally and it's sweet. Starts in about 2 seconds in the cold with the choke out.

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I might need to make a call to Alfastop. The hydraulics seem fine, but you have to really stand on it to get the thing to slow down. The shoes were probably re-lined with the wrong material.
I'm not trying to discourage you from talking with the smart people at Alfastop, but there might be nothing wrong with your brakes. They do take some muscle. With no power assist, 750/101 brakes just feel odd to us inhabitants of the 21st Century.

Softer linings might help the situation. Many 750/101 owners living in larger metropolitan areas can get their shoes relined locally by a company that handles truck brakes. Of course, those folks may only stock super hard materials, and hence the high pedal pressure. But, you could take your shoes to a local reliner, see if they can assess the hardness of the material, and ask whether they can replace it with anything softer.
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