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Auto Stop/Start

Can the auto stop function be turned off?

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Can the auto stop function be turned off?
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To manually activate/deactivate the system, press the button inserted in the control panel on the left of the steering wheel
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Can the auto stop function be turned off?
when you mean turned off..do you mean completely defeated? because when you start the car all you need to do is push the stop/start button to the left of the steering wheel, its on the dash near the lights...and the light will go off deactivating it...HOWEVER when you shut the car off,,,and then restart the car at a later time you will need to push the button again to deactivate once again. there is no permanent defeat of the system that I am aware of...not like in my BMW.
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Yes, I was referring to a permanent deactivation. It's a pain to have to switch off every time you start. How much fuel do they really think it saves?

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The vehicle does not have a feature to turn the stop/start off permanently.

You need to do that every time you start the vehicle.

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Depends on your driving style, traffic, temperature, etc..

It is smart system, will keep engine running in a cold weather, hot weather, in a rain, in reverse, uphill, when engine is not hot enough, voltage on the battery is not high, probably in some other circumstances.


Also you do not need to worry about turbocharger temperature when the engine is off. Giulia has the same turbo cooling system (after-run electric pump which can works up to 10 minutes after engine was off) as 4C and american 1.4 Turbo Multiair.

The 2.0 GME has two completely separate cooling circuits: the high temperature loop feeds the engine block and head, engine oil, low pressure EGR and cabin heater, and the low temperature one cools the intercooler and turbo. The HT circuit has a belt-driven pump, while the LT one has an electric pump. Both loops have electronic bypass valves rather than conventional thermostats.

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Yes, I was referring to a permanent deactivation. It's a pain to have to switch off every time you start. How much fuel do they really think it saves?
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Depends on your driving style, traffic, temperature, etc..

It is smart system, will keep engine running in a cold weather, hot weather, in a rain, in reverse, uphill, when engine is not hot enough, voltage on the battery is not high, probably in some other circumstances.


Also you do not need to worry about turbocharger temperature when the engine is off. Giulia has the same turbo cooling system (after-run electric pump which can works up to 10 minutes after engine was off) as 4C and american 1.4 Turbo Multiair.

The 2.0 GME has two completely separate cooling circuits: the high temperature loop feeds the engine block and head, engine oil, low pressure EGR and cabin heater, and the low temperature one cools the intercooler and turbo. The HT circuit has a belt-driven pump, while the LT one has an electric pump. Both loops have electronic bypass valves rather than conventional thermostats.
Depends. Near where I live, there's an intersection (two actually) with a five minute signal. I've lived here most of my life and I've timed the signal. If it turns red just as you get there, it is five minutes until it it turns green. In bad traffic you can be stuck three cycles before being able to cross the intersection. Not too much further is another five minute signal with the same three session wait. That's 5x6=30 minutes of sitting.

Also, an engine isn't operating at it's best efficiency while idling. It's little stupid things like this "stop-n-go" feature that really do help the environment. That or ride a bicycle.

I've never owned a car with auto-start before. During my Giulia test drive it was, hmm, different. It will take some getting used to. But I've got to admit that it worked seamlessly. The car would self start when I released the brake and was ready to go by the time I pressed the throttle. I'm sure that with practice it would soon feel normal. But, there might be times that I would want/need to disable this. Drag racing my buddy for one.

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Wow, I thought NJ traffic was bad! My gripe with autostop is that in some cars the startup is very obtrusive. In others such as BMW it's hardly noticeable

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To me, the Autostop is the most annoying thing about my Giulia!
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To me, the Autostop is the most annoying thing about my Giulia!
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What's even more aggravating is that I've heard that they're trying to make it a requirement on all new cars. I'd like to see a study done to determine the actual fuel savings and possible premature failure of the starter. Now we can add "starter lag" to any turbo lag although I don't sense much of the latter on my Giulia.
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....or ride a bicycle.

Good idea!
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"I don't sense much of the latter on my Giulia"

Maybe when the car has real mileage and years on it, say, 50k miles or more, the system will begin to raise it's ugly and worn head.

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The diesel Giulia w/auto I've been driving seems to sense some kind of parameter(s) as some situations the engine remains idling when I stop to enter traffic or similar. I think but haven't delved into it, that it is operating temperature related... either of the engine or the trans. Either way, it is a major PITA having this and yes, there is a wee bit of delay when restarting. Given, how the usual Italian drives here, it'd be a matter of time someone taps the rear trying to jump the light and assuming I am going to do the same. ciao, chris

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