GTAj 775325 Ammen/Rutherford, Perry, Singh

[kengta]

Pictures Taken at the 1992 SVRA at Watkins Glen. The GTAj was entered and driven by Bruce Perry.

Last picture shows the half dash referenced in another thread.

Ciao

Ken

[kengta]

Possibly the same GTAj 775325 shown at VIR 1n 1969

Ken

[kengta]

2 more thought to be GTAj 775325 Ammen/Rutherford at Bridgehamton

Ken

[kengta]

One more thought to be Ammen on GTAj 775325 unknown, to me , Source/track??

Ciao

Ken

[PAUGNUT1275]

Ken,
That looks like the turn coming out of the "boot" at Watkins Glen.
Keith

[Alleggerita]

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Originally Posted by kengta Possibly the same GTAj 775325 shown at VIR 1n 1969 Ken

[kengta]

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Originally Posted by Alleggerita Ken, the first two pics in your post are a GTA junior but the other two are definitely a steel car - 1300GT junior.

[PSk]

It would be great if a New Zealand AROC member could make Singh aware of this thread, might get some current photos. Unfortunately I'm not a NZ AROC member any more.

I watched him do some laps at an Alfa club meet at Manfield and also watched him have a quick spin coming on to the front straight ... luckily no damage but a few spectator's (including mine) hearts skipped a beat.
Pete

[martinue]

Last year Fred and me tried to sort out the various Ammen-Rutherford cars:

#1 GTJ1300 *1211225*
1968 David Ammen (CS)
1970-73 Gary Rutherford (BS)
1973-76 Joe Scheibenpflug?
1976 George Turini
Antilla
Bruce Fernie
2006-09 Fred Schueddekopp

#2 GTAJ
1969 Gaston Andrey?
1969-1973 Dave Ammen ... very possibly the car from post #2 (1969), #3 and #4 (1974?)
1974? rolled by Gary Rutherford, according to Rutherford it was directly flown out from Italy when new, after the accident it was parted out and he personally trucked the remains to the dump

#3 GTA *613633*
1966 X., Atlanta
1967? Dave Ammen
1975? sold to Roger Clouser, Rochester
Resold to Dave Schosser
1980-1986 John Bicht, Philadelphia
1992 John Murphy
2009 X., Bargo (AUS)

GTAJ *775325*
1969-1971 Gaston Andrey ... so very sure not the car from post #2
1972-1976 Dave Ammen
1976-1993 Bruce Perry, Bradford (Perry #2)
1993 Les Singh (NZ)

Ammen is mostly with no. 4, Rutherford with no. 5. All Ammen/Rutherford cars have their usual triangle stickers on it (including the Spider from post #3)

Photo from 1971, TransAm Mid Ohio, Andrey's *775325* (no. 26) with Everett's *752507* (no. 25)


Any help would be appreciated

[kengta]

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Originally Posted by martinue Last year Fred and me tried to sort out the various Ammen-Rutherford cars: #1 GTJ1300 *1211225* 1968 David Ammen (CS) 1970-73 Gary Rutherford (BS) 1973-76 Joe Scheibenpflug? 1976 George Turini Antilla Bruce Fernie 2006-09 Fred Schueddekopp #2 GTAJ 1969 Gaston Andrey? 1969-1973 Dave Ammen ... very possibly the car from post #2 (1969), #3 and #4 (1974?) 1974? rolled by Gary Rutherford, according to Rutherford it was directly flown out from Italy when new, after the accident it was parted out and he personally trucked the remains to the dump #3 GTA *613633* 1966 X., Atlanta 1967? Dave Ammen 1975? sold to Roger Clouser, Rochester Resold to Dave Schosser 1980-1986 John Bicht, Philadelphia 1992 John Murphy 2009 X., Bargo (AUS) GTAJ *775325* 1969-1971 Gaston Andrey ... so very sure not the car from post #2 1972-1976 Dave Ammen 1976-1993 Bruce Perry, Bradford (Perry #2) 1993 Les Singh (NZ) Ammen is mostly with no. 4, Rutherford with no. 5. All Ammen/Rutherford cars have their usual triangle stickers on it (including the Spider from post #3) Photo from 1971, TransAm Mid Ohio, Andrey's *775325* (no. 26) with Everett's *752507* (no. 25) Attachment 155830 Any help would be appreciated

[kengta]

I just went through my file on this GTAj 775325, and the info I have from Bruce Perry is completely consistent with Martins dates for the Ammen Perry ownership.

Other Details from Bruce:

He did not know first owner. Ammen 72-76; Perry 1976 until sold to NZ

Sliding Block, special springs and Anti-sway bars, special limited slip 5.38:1 diff, Std GTA trans

Campaigned in Northeast SCCA Nationals, first by Ammen 1972 to 1976 then by Perry 1977-1982. Qualified for the SCCA Atlanta Runoffs 8 times between 1972 and 1981.

[kengta]

You will notice from picture in post 9 above, that the Crew for both GTA's was Paul Glynn and Oskar Feldman.

I gave Paul a call today about the #26 GTA and he told me that this Car was the 1970 #4 Trans Am GTA of Harry T. So I think not 775325. Paul went on to say that he had distinct memory of driving to Kweck's shop and picking the car up, losing a wheel on the trailer on the way back near London, Ontario then continuing on to Mass. to prep the car for the 71 season.

He also told me that after the 1971 season this LHD GTA was sold to BOBCOR along with GTA 752507 and both were painted yellow. There apparently were 2 LHD Bobcor GTAs #26(wrecked and parted, ed Rogers) and #52 (AR*775253, Ken Schley).

I also spoke with Bruce Perry today and he did not think that 775325 had had any Trans Am History and felt sure Dave Ammen would have mentioned it if it had. His feeling was that it was the last GTAj that Ammen had bought and it was always a 1300 and may have even been bought new. (new from the Andrey Dealership????)


FWIW

Ken

[Blue Flame]

This picture is interesting because it also shows the ex Ammen/Rutherford GTA #613633 as owned by Roger Clouser in the pic, the blue #3 car. Gary Rutherford told me that part of the sale deal with Roger included having the car painted dark blue (originally red) before they handed it over. He also mentioned that he and Ammen helped him trackside initially to get him going.
I'll see if I can dig out some more pics of it in Clouser's ownership.

[italcarguy]

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Originally Posted by kengta If in fact this turns out to be indeed the #26 1971 Trans Am GTA then another mystery (for me Anyways) is solved. When the Perry GTAj, 775325, was being sold to NZ, Roman and I lamented losing a GTAj with some US race history and that no US buyers were interested. The lament will be greater if it proves to be that #26 Trans Am Alfa.

[ECARRILLO]

Interesting stuff overall, and interesting that we still have people who drove these cars and remember them and share their knowledge on the BB!

One more comming out soon